Thread: "Russophobia" and "Russophilia" :)

Originally Posted by eisenherz

very poor analogy; the Crimea and NovoRossiya were not loaned to the Ukraine; there were gifted/donated to them by decision of Russia's ruling powers. And since when does 'not returning a gift' qualify as stealing?

Did they also give gifts to Santa Claus? Because he doesn't exist either. But SergeMak already answered your question and I couldn't have said it better:

Originally Posted by SergeMak

И снова пальцем в небо! До 1917 года Украины вообще не существовало как суверенного государства, а в 1922 году новоиспеченная Украина с неустоявшимися границами была принята в состав СССР. После чего границы еще много раз перекраивались в основном по экономическим соображениям, а вовсе не этническим. Никто в советские годы всерьез не рассматривал возможность выхода Украины из состава СССР, поэтому передача Крыма ничего не значила - чисто популистское решение недальновидного политикана.
Теперь по поводу подарков. Если мне добрый человек дарит подарок, и если я порядочный человек, а не порядочная скотина, то я буду благодарен ему.
В 1990 году СССР по сути подарил Восточную Германию Западной. Вместо благодарности мы увидели расширение НАТО на восток, поддержку русофобов в Грузии и на Украине, поддержку фашиствующих элементов в странах Балтии, раздувание вооруженного конфликта в бывшей Югославии и все в этом же духе.
Если это не проявление русофобии, то что?

@ Hanna: I seriously couldn't believe that article. I had to check the date on the paper because I honestly couldn't believe any journalist could be that paranoid and irrational. He seriously needs to consider getting professional help. I don't know if there's a cure for schizophrenia but they could keep it controlled with meds. But not the same meds the Obama administration is on - those obviously don't work.

Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

@ Hanna: I seriously couldn't believe that article. I had to check the date on the paper because I honestly couldn't believe any journalist could be that paranoid and irrational. He seriously needs to consider getting professional help. I don't know if there's a cure for schizophrenia but they could keep it controlled with meds. But not the same meds the Obama administration is on - those obviously don't work.

Thanks for understanding!

This kind of thing is what made me so hung up on the anti Russia propaganda.
I don't like it when somebody tries to shove a pre-defined opinion down my throat, and that is exactly what this is.

They have zero substance to this Russophobia - it's whipped up out of thin air, and it's very strongly orchestrated. The ownership of media in Sweden is a really concerning. I'm just wondering who's orchestrating it.

I think there is plenty of room for discussions about things that are wrong in Russia. It's certainly not a perfect country that should be let off the hook about everything it doe. But all this anti-Russia talk just makes me defend it even on points where I'd normally have reservations.

And here's another observation: RT is really beginning to get on Washington's nerves. It's the only truly alternative news channel, along with Press TV which I doubt anyone in the US dares to watch.
Press TV was banned from all European satellites, so the only way to see it in Europe now, is to stream online. They used some absolutely ridiculous justification for it that was totally hollow.
I think they will try something similar with RT soon.