Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
I want a fairer society that recognises the value of people in terms other than just money and what potential profit they can generate.
If all you care about is money, profit and capital then I feel very sorry for you.

Those are empty values and can never fulfill anyone. The more you have, the more you feel you need.
And millions in every rich country, and billions around the world end up at the bottom with nothing but constant fear for how they will manage tomorrow.

I totally agree with the hypocrisy of protests by people who take advantage of all the products that capitalism has to offer.
I do myself and I am aware of the controversy.

Can't you see that the banks are irresponsible and greedy? They produce NOTHING, all they do is speculate with money, trick consumers into irresponsible lending and and charge extorbitant fees for storing money. They have dragged the USA down in the gutter in their quest to squeeze the last penny out of regular workers there. Together with large corporations, they are the scum of the earth.
Something similar is going on in parts of Europe. The banks should be stopped.

Personally I would support a system with LOWER consumption - do away with fashion mania that means you have to regularly change your entire wardrobe. Do away with advertisements that trick people into thinking they need endless gadgets and the latest models of everything from car to computer. Stop irresponsible holiday habits, limit flying and car usage etc.
I'd hope that in a fairer society people could still have some nice looking clothes, computers and enjoy a holiday and so on. One of the reasons I left the UK was actually that I felt so strongly against the wars that the UK is participating in.
Again you mixed up everything. First, banks pay me percent for storing my money. Then, they don't force me into loaning money, if I ever decide to do so, that will be completely my choice. Can't see a single reason why the banks should be "stopped". Then, there you go on "the evil corporations" again. Leave them alone, please. All the best humanity has for now has been made by the corporations. Basically everything. See, each small business that does not "oppress people", if it's successful, is going to turn into a large corporation sooner or later. Remember how Microsoft or Apple started, just for instance.

Then, I personally don't want that lower consumption thing on me. I want to buy what I want to buy, right at the moment when I want that, and so on. On the other hand, if I don't, no ads are going to change my mind. As well as no ads are going to persuade me I should refrain from buying what I want for some strange unobvious reasons like I'm supporting "greedy corporations" or something. I want to live in the world where I can afford everything I can ever think of, and my budget is the only limit factor.

You did leave the UK after all huh? Sorry, I didn't know those virtual things had affected you so much... By the way, what wars exactly are you talking about?