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    Military in Russia.

    I'm just wondering if you as a russian member are forced to do military service because the only i know about that is you as a russian member doesn't need to do it if you want.

    Can someone here explain.

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    We are, but most of the conscripts seek and find ways to avoid military service, by bribe or by health condition.
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    Re: Military in Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by mekko
    I'm just wondering if you as a russian member are forced to do military service because the only i know about that is you as a russian member doesn't need to do it if you want.

    Can someone here explain.
    Every able-bodied male theoretically is obliged by law to join the Army at the age of 18 (and up to 27) for 2 years. (there are some variations and some exceptions but generally it is so).

    However, if you learn in some Government Higher-Educational Institution, you may enter the military department and try to get an officer's rank. This way you're still obliged to join the army but in fact, our army doesn't need that many officers so graduates generally are left alone.
    I've been visiting military department at my institute for two years during my student life and later I've been sent to a military training camp near Nizhny Novgorod where I stayed for 2 months. They gave me a leutenant's rank and I was free at last.

    You may also pretend to have health condition incompatible with military service (it will cost you but you'll be free).

    You may also just to ignore call notices from military authorities and try to live in hiding for almost 10 years (from the age of 18 to the age of 27).
    Technically you may go to prison for evasion but in reality such cases are incidental.

    Or you may get married and have at least 2 babies.
    Or you may go working in some government agency for cents but with no headache about army life.

    You may also go to alternative civilian service (as medical aid in hospitals for example)

    You may bribe your enlistment officer.
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    in some State Higher-Educational Institution
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors
    in some State Higher-Educational Institution
    I know. But I keep stumbling on Government instead of State (mostly in american texts) because there is difference between Government Institution and State Institution for obvious reasons.
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    Наши государственные университеты называются State. (Novgorod State University, Moscow State University, Novosibirsk State University).
    А Government, я думаю, это вообще "Правительственный". Например, Правительственная академия финансов. Или типа того.
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    Ok,but was the military camp a hell or not?

    In west europe we see Russian military as a pain with no able to leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mekko
    Ok,but was the military camp a hell or not?

    In west europe we see Russian military as a pain with no able to leave it.
    Nothing of that. We just stayed there for two months doing a lot of things related to a hard physical labor.
    Also we learnt how to march, put on a chemical protection suit, shoot from AK, throw a grenade, passed our exams on army procurement, had a lot of fun then we left home.
    As our colonel said - a pioneer camp with slight military inclination
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Quote Originally Posted by mekko
    Ok,but was the military camp a hell or not?

    In west europe we see Russian military as a pain with no able to leave it.
    Nothing of that. We just stayed there for two months doing a lot of things related to _ hard physical labor.
    Also we learnt how to march, put on a chemical protection suit, shoot an AK, throw a grenade, passed our exams on army procurement, had a lot of fun then we left home.
    As our colonel said - a pioneer camp with slight military inclination
    Sounds cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Quote Originally Posted by mekko
    Ok,but was the military camp a hell or not?

    In west europe we see Russian military as a pain with no able to leave it.
    Nothing of that. We just stayed there for two months doing a lot of things related to _ hard physical labor.
    Also we learnt how to march, put on a chemical protection suit, shoot an AK, throw a grenade, passed our exams on army procurement, had a lot of fun then we left home.
    As our colonel said - a pioneer camp with slight military inclination
    Sounds cool.
    Thanks for corrections. As for the camp - we thought then it was hell. But later, there were some men among us who actually missed it We lived in barracks we had only cold water there, the food was awful and duties were exhausing. I used to return from duties fall on the bed and went to sleep as soon as my head touched the pillow. We stank a lot but nobody sensed the smell We aslo wore cool looking WW2 uniforms (apparently there were many of them left in warehouses).
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    Да, но не смотря на это, я хотел бы впуститься в армию part-time. Я думаю, что служить в армии образовывает характер, и все должны записываться по меньшей мере на шесть месяцев. Но я признаюсь, что если бы я жил в России, то скорее всего я бы не так думал. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Да, но не смотря на это, я хотел бы впуститься в армию part-time. Я думаю, что служить в армии образовывает характер, и все должны записываться по меньшей мере на шесть месяцев. Но я признаюсь, что если бы я жил в России, то скорее всего я бы не так думал. :P
    Когда бы ты не смог взяться ни за что рукой из-за мозолей, когда бы твои ноги были сбиты сапогами, когда бы твои уши и тело покрылись волдырями и с тебя бы слезала кожа из-за солнечных ожогов, когда бы ты целыми днями выполнял тупую, никому не нужную, но изматывающую физическую работу при +40 °С , когда бы ты перестал понимать нормальный русский язык, а разговаривать с тобой можно было бы только матом, ты бы так не говорил.
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    ЛОл, this has me thinking the NZ military must be a little soft...

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    The Russian soldier stoical and patient. (c) Сибирский цирюльник
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    Re: Military in Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by mekko
    I'm just wondering if you as a russian member are forced to do military service because the only i know about that is you as a russian member doesn't need to do it if you want.
    I am surprised the Russians even understand your question! lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Когда бы ты не смог взяться ни за что рукой из-за мозолей, когда бы твои ноги были сбиты сапогами, когда бы твои уши и тело покрылись волдырями и с тебя бы слезала кожа из-за солнечных ожогов, когда бы ты целыми днями выполнял тупую, никому не нужную, но изматывающую физическую работу при +40 °С , когда бы ты перестал понимать нормальный русский язык, а разговаривать с тобой можно было бы только матом, ты бы так не говорил.
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