Thread: Latest from Ukraine

Originally Posted by SergeMak

И где там наш "непредвзятый ненаезжаемый модератор"? Или это не переход на личности?! Не пора ли призвать к ответственности этого распоясовшегося тролля?

LOL.
How am I trolling? I discussed the topic with you. You asked me to get it translated and I did. You claimed the English translation (from the articles) were lies but Russian speakers I talked to say it's accurate. I summarized what they told me.

This is the only part you said that I believe is true: "In reality he says that they didn't have any support from the government authorities." I didn't argue that. I didn't even argue that there was support from the people. But, not a majority. The army had to compel the local government. The pro-Putin army there also used propaganda and shut down the Ukraine media. I asserted Girlkin's confession plus these additional circumstances led to the annexation. All in all, it was done unethically contrary to previous claims. You have nothing to respond with so you make 'troll' accusations.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

LOL.
How am I trolling? I discussed the topic with you. You asked me to get it translated and I did. You claimed the English translation (from the articles) were lies but Russian speakers I talked to say it's accurate. I summarized what they told me.

This is the only part you said that I believe is true: "In reality he says that they didn't have any support from the government authorities." I didn't argue that. I didn't even argue that there was support from the people. But, not a majority. The army had to compel the local government. The pro-Putin army there also used propaganda and shut down the Ukraine media. I asserted Girlkin's confession plus these additional circumstances led to the annexation. All in all, it was done unethically contrary to previous claims. You have nothing to respond with so you make 'troll' accusations.

I didn't ask you to translate anything to me. You published some links and I said they are full of lies. I clearly showed why I think so. One article printed a picture impertinent to the content of the article, another has a questionable map, two other links distorted the translation of Strelkov's interview. I didn't even begin to discuss the Strelkov's figure, his "confession" and his role in all what has happened. I didn't call you a lier, I only said that the media you are repeating lies and it's seen. In response you said me rude things. Only trolls act this way.
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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Originally Posted by SergeMak

I didn't ask you to translate anything to me. You published some links and I said they are full of lies. I clearly showed why I think so. One article printed a picture impertinent to the content of the article, another has a questionable map, two other links distorted the translation of Strelkov's interview. I didn't even begin to discuss the Strelkov's figure, his "confession" and his role in all what has happened. I didn't call you a lier, I only said that the media you are repeating lies and it's seen. In response you said me rude things. Only trolls act this way.
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No, no.

You explicitly told me to 'check the translation.' This is exactly the phrases you posted:

'So, I would highly recommend to check the translation in order not to look ridiculous.

Anyone who know*s Russian will say that I am right." (* -> edits - by me)

You were saying I look ridiculous or I am but no matter. I let that go. You asked to get the translation and then you implied that anyone who understood Russian would concur with you. And that was incorrect. Maybe, you don't mean to lie. You just believe your interpretations even though I asked people who also understood and speak Russian and they came to different conclusions which mostly match the English-based articles I presented. I explained their summary and it does make sense. That's hardly trolling.