Thread: Demographic dynamics under socialism + tidbits of Putin + related stuff

Originally Posted by diogen_

It’s just blah blah blah to save face. With the above you didn't contribute with something substantial to the discussion beside some sweeping generalizations of my possible "true" intentions based on your unconfirmed suggestions.

You mean on the contrary of your blah blah blah?

Originally Posted by diogen_

Please provide some specific facts with links on how the socialism in the USSR positively contributed to the demography of this country instead of pretending you don't understand what I mean.))

I don't need to provide such facts, because I have never said neither that socialism did some remarkable contributions to the demography nor I stated that socialism caused any decline to the demography.
You on the other hand said that

Originally Posted by diogen_

But the idea that socialism positively contributes to the growth of population is definitely false.

And yet failed to provide facts to prove that, because the article you referring to says:

Социальные потрясения 20 века на всем пространстве бывшего СССР - войны, голод, массовое насилие в ходе революционных процессов и социально-экономических экспериментов - нарушили естественный ход демографической эволюции и непосредственным образом сказались на демографических судьбах поколений, испытавших воздействие чрезвычайных обстоятельств на тех или иных отрезках времени своей жизни.

I merely pointed out that such a conclusion looks like a Russophobic propaganda to me.

And now you trying to provoke a fight, so moderator would close the whole topic. Don't, just go pick a fight somewhere else.

Originally Posted by hddscan

I don't need to provide such facts, because I have never said neither that socialism did some remarkable contributions to the demography nor I stated that socialism caused any decline to the demography.

So, it means you simply don’t have any strong opinion on the issue based on facts and still try to pass judgments on others. Get it.))

And yet failed to provide facts to prove that, because the article you referring to says...

Sorry,“голод, массовое насилие в ходе революционных процессов и социально-экономических экспериментов” are those specific negative factors that contributed to the demographic situation in the USSR, and these factors are not only mentioned in the article but also closely tied up with socialism in the USSR.

I merely pointed out that such a conclusion looks like a Russophobic propaganda to me.

If somebody doesn’t share communist believes, it by no means can be qualified “Russofobic propaganda”. Some shortage of logic once again.))

And now you trying to provoke a fight, so moderator would close the whole topic. Don't, just go pick a fight somewhere else.

It’s is wishful thinking and appeal to authority of moderator in order to stop the discussion. According to the rules, I can challenge any of your points without asking permission. No personal insults have been given in the thread so far.

Originally Posted by diogen_

...No personal insults have been given in the thread so far.

Не думаю, что вы опуститесь до персональных оскорблений, но дискуссия вроде приобретает недружелюбный характер, что само по себе абсолютно нежелательно и вредно для форума. И так уже слишком много закрытых тем.