Thread: The cold war to go on. USA is ranked with terrorists.

If USA still support NATO, this is because USA hopes NATO to support the defense of Israel and the anti-terroristic actions.

Why are they grouping around Russia then?

Those dities were implied to the USA and UK as they were the only true winners in the WW2.

I thought the celebration of 60th anniversary in Russia had opened the world's eyes on the USSR's role in WW2.

This Soviet flag hoisted on the rooftop of the Reichstag marked the end of fascist domination in the world.

Be easy on the kid, you can tell he isn't out of high school yet!

Originally Posted by christo_tamarin

On the other hand, the USA still have duties in defending Israel, Japan, Taiwan.

Do they know about that?

Those dities were implied to the USA and UK as they were the only true winners in the WW2. Thus, the USA now is free to leave NATO.

Did you learn that from the "How make enemies in Russia" book?

Every Russian believes that the most noble thing Russia did in the XX century is that it defended world from Hitler.
What do Americans know about WW2 anyway? They spend most of it in jungles.

I hoped Russia is not the empire of evil anymore.

Oh, yes. We are. Evil, I mean. Mwahahaa.

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Originally Posted by christo_tamarin

On the other hand, the USA still have duties in defending Israel, Japan, Taiwan.

Do they know about that?

I don't think there is anyting about that statement. Japan is allied to the U.S. and relies on its military to protect them (they have a pacifist constitution (although they are thinking of changing that)). Taiwan is in a similar situation and american warships protect the Taiwan islands... Let's not even talk about Israel

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

I don't think there is anyting about that statement. Japan is allied to the U.S. and relies on its military to protect them (they have a pacifist constitution (although they are thinking of changing that)). Taiwan is in a similar situation and american warships protect the Taiwan islands... Let's not even talk about Israel

Okaay.
I was just surprised that he chosed these three countries in particular.
And I didn't know USA and Japan are such good friends. Well, now I know.

Japan is allied to the U.S. and relies on its military to protect them...

Yes, it does rely. Particularly after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki events.

Originally Posted by mishau_

Japan is allied to the U.S. and relies on its military to protect them...

Yes, it does really. Particularly after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki events.

I am sorry, are you agreeing with me or being sarcastic?

[quote=kalinka_vinnie]

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Originally Posted by "christo_tamarin":3eybyjqm

On the other hand, the USA still have duties in defending Israel, Japan, Taiwan.

Do they know about that?

I don't think there is anyting about that statement. Japan is allied to the U.S. and relies on its military to protect them (they have a pacifist constitution (although they are thinking of changing that)).

[/quote:3eybyjqm]

Well, I'd sign any peace treaty after I'd been bombed with nuclear weapons. The term "allies" doesn't pop in mind though. And Japan was denied to have any military force after WW2.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

I am sorry, are you agreeing with me or being sarcastic?

I said Japan does rely on US military. I mean that by force any contry can make other countries obey. Russian and Japan are still at war with each other. Formally of course. Though it's the best way for the USA to make Japan rely on its military if Japan does not rely it will catch a few new bombs.

Originally Posted by Ramil

I don't think there is anyting about that statement. Japan is allied to the U.S. and relies on its military to protect them (they have a pacifist constitution (although they are thinking of changing that)).

Well, I'd sign any peace treaty after I'd been bombed with nuclear weapons. The term "allies" doesn't pop in mind though. And Japan was denied to have any military force after WW2.[/quote]

You make it sound like USA was the evil agressor and has been surpressing Japan for all these years

As you might remember from history class, Japan happened to be the agressor in WWII. Japan is considered a close ally of the USA not because USA wants it to, but because Japan also wants to. You don't think that Japan's current status as a world economic power is purely coincidential do you? Yes, the pacifist consitution was rewritten under the guidance of the US, but you haven't hear any resentment about it until recently. So, whether you have grudges against the US or not, Japan is a willing ally of the US.

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

And I didn't know USA and Japan are such good friends.

Actually we are

And BTW, we only spent about half of WW2 in jungles

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Be easy on the kid, you can tell he isn't out of high school yet!

LOL, thank you kalinka. And by the way, I'm a she

Originally Posted by RusskiSlav

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Be easy on the kid, you can tell he isn't out of high school yet!

LOL, thank you kalinka. And by the way, I'm a she

My mistake, ma'am! The stern anti-communism and interest in history had me fooled in the hands of my macho chauvinistic stereotyping

Originally Posted by RusskiSlav

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Be easy on the kid, you can tell he isn't out of high school yet!

LOL, thank you kalinka. And by the way, I'm a she

I think kalinka ask us to be easy about christo_tamarin , not you, RusskiSlav. I'v read many your posts end respect your opinion, but can't agree with many your points. We was just laughing on the stupid things that person said.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

My mistake, ma'am! The stern anti-communism and interest in history had me fooled in the hands of my macho chauvinistic stereotyping

LOL that's OK

Originally Posted by Basil77

Originally Posted by RusskiSlav

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Be easy on the kid, you can tell he isn't out of high school yet!

LOL, thank you kalinka. And by the way, I'm a she

I think kalinka ask us to be easy about christo_tamarin , not you, RusskiSlav. I'v read many your posts end respect your opinion, but can't agree with many your points. We was just laughing on the stupid things that person said.

Hey that is true! I did mean christo! I don't know why I forgot myself! So, I take my apology back RusskiSlav!!! I knew you were a she all along

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

My mistake, ma'am! The stern anti-communism and interest in history had me fooled in the hands of my macho chauvinistic stereotyping

you've probably meant "disinterest in history". You can't buy such an astounding ignorance.

Originally Posted by adoc

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

My mistake, ma'am! The stern anti-communism and interest in history had me fooled in the hands of my macho chauvinistic stereotyping

you've probably meant "disinterest in history". You can't buy such an astounding ignorance.

Well, she brandishes history as a weapon, not many women do unfortunately!

[quote=kalinka_vinnie]

Originally Posted by adoc

Originally Posted by "kalinka_vinnie":3cl23gma

My mistake, ma'am! The stern anti-communism and interest in history had me fooled in the hands of my macho chauvinistic stereotyping

you've probably meant "disinterest in history". You can't buy such an astounding ignorance.

Well, she brandishes history as a weapon, not many women do unfortunately![/quote:3cl23gma]
Silly rabbit. It's not history. It's herstory. Ba-da-bum-chi! Ok, that was bad...so bad... :P

The New American Cold War

Stephen F. Cohen

Contrary to established opinion, the gravest threats to America's national security are still in Russia. They derive from an unprecedented development that most US policy-makers have recklessly disregarded, as evidenced by the undeclared cold war Washington has waged, under both parties, against post-Communist Russia during the past fifteen years.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060710/cohen

Америка развязывает новую 'холодную войну'

("The Nation", США)
Стивен Ф. Коэн (Stephen F. Cohen), 04 июля 2006
Вопреки общепринятому мнению, самая серьезная угроза национальной безопасности США по-прежнему исходит из России. Она связана с беспрецедентным явлением, которое большинство политических руководителей США безответственно оставляет без внимания, о чем свидетельствует необъявленная 'холодная война', которую Вашингтон, как при демократической, так и при республиканской администрации, уже 15 лет ведет против посткоммунистической России.
http://www.inosmi.ru/stories/01/06/28/3008/228558.html

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