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    The cold war to go on. USA is ranked with terrorists.

    For those who adhere the idea that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War by one simple move, that is, to procude so much weapon that the USSR would not be able to compete and finally collapse, Russian militaries headed by a KGB officer Putin have prepared their own answer.

    In the new military doctrine, that the Russian government is going to introduce, Russia will be able to intervene in local frontier conflicts, close their eyes on preliforation of nuclear weapons and struggle against their three probable enemies the USA, NATO and terrorists.


    http://www.gzt.ru/politics/2006/09/18/213033.html
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    Where're my kevlar vest and AK-74?
    And a bottle of rum!
    -- Да? Коту Ваське, бл##?
    -- Нет, Я кот Васька :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors
    Where're my kevlar vest and AK-74?
    And a bottle of rum!
    Нарисовать доктрину на бумажке и её исполнять - это две большие разницы, как говорят в Одессе. Я так и вижу, как наш спецназ выезжает за бугор на помощь российским гражданам.
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    On the other hand Putin will be getting an opportunity to threaten Ukraine and other Moldavias.

    Я так и вижу, как наш спецназ выезжает за бугор на помощь российским гражданам.
    Why spetznaz? Private Ramil, step out! You are given the honour to do your international duty! Help the struggling communists of Ukraine come to power once and for all! Putin bless you!
    -- Да? Коту Ваське, бл##?
    -- Нет, Я кот Васька :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors
    On the other hand Putin will be getting an opportunity to threaten Ukraine and other Moldavias.

    Я так и вижу, как наш спецназ выезжает за бугор на помощь российским гражданам.
    Why spetznaz? Private Ramil, step out! You are given the honour to do your international duty! Help the struggling communists of Ukraine come to power once and for all! Putin bless you!
    BTW I'm a leutenant, not private.
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    Of course the Cold War is still going on (sort of). We've known that for years.

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    Ok...
    Why spetznaz? Lieutenant Ramil, step out! You are given the honour to do your international duty! Help the struggling communists of Ukraine come to power once and for all! Putin bless you!
    -- Да? Коту Ваське, бл##?
    -- Нет, Я кот Васька :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors
    Ok...
    Why spetznaz? Lieutenant Ramil, step out! You are given the honour to do your international duty! Help the struggling communists of Ukraine come to power once and for all! Putin bless you!
    I've paid all my duties to my country on 17th of August 1998. I hope the country will get by with all my money I've lost that day.

    I even have a reconciliation report on that.
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    Meh. That's a pretty sensationalist headline. It's not that they're equating the US/NATO with terrorists, but rather they are equating them in importance in terms of war planning. There is a difference -- a big one. It's got nothing to do with some sudden devious shift -- it's just that the US is seen as the most powerful state and one that anybody who's not British or Canadian would be absolutely idiotic not to draw up plans for defending against. Really, to be honest with you, the only "Cold War" aspect I see here is that these politicians are obsessed with proving that they are still the Americans' equal in terms of super-power status -- and the way they do that, since they don't have as strong a nuclear arsenal or as many tanks or jets or whatever is drawing up relatively pointless doctrines. Conversely, do you really think that the US is that concerned with Russia? No, of course not ("Terrorism", China, Iraq/Iran, NK, etc. are ALL far more important points of focus now). Russia -- no offense intended -- probably rates as a second or third-tier power and isn't really that high of a priority in US war planning. Whatever the problems are between the US and Russia -- and they are many -- they don't warrant anything CLOSE to the hostility that existed in the Cold War. Russia does stuff we don't like and vice versa but I don't see anybody marching on Moscow any time soon -- disputes are aired out in diplomatic and economic venues. Bottom line: it's politicians doing what they do best: puffing up their chests and bullsh*tting.
    Заранее благодарю всех за исправление ошибок в моём русском.

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    Штаты сами этого добивались. С самого того момента, когда прислали сюда двух црушных офицеров делать приватизацию, и сразу ослабили экономику страны. Потом эти пытки неграждан США в интересах США, потом война с Ираком на ровном месте в обход ООН, наглые вмешательства в европейские дела и, наконец, революции в странах СНГ. Все это настолько подорвало веру в искренность намерений США, что заставило страны азиатского блока объединяться против США. Россия здесь возможно будет играть ключевую роль из-за огромной территории и богатством природных ресурсов. Так что, третий там у России уровень по силе или десятый - не важно, она способна сплотить все враждебные США страны. В этом я уверен. Жаль только, что сделано это будет за счет честных налогоплательщиков, а не за счет проворовавшихся чинуш, которые просто будут продолжать наживаться. Талантливые люди в России способны (и будут) работать за копейки, в отличии от сытого Запада.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishau_
    Штаты сами этого добивались. С самого того момента, когда прислали сюда двух црушных офицеров делать приватизацию, и сразу ослабили экономику страны. Потом эти пытки неграждан США в интересах США, потом война с Ираком на ровном месте в обход ООН, наглые вмешательства в европейские дела и, наконец, революции в странах СНГ. Все это настолько подорвало веру в искренность намерений США, что заставило страны азиатского блока объединяться против США. Россия здесь возможно будет играть ключевую роль из-за огромной территории и богатством природных ресурсов. Так что, третий там у России уровень по силе или десятый - не важно, она способна сплотить все враждебные США страны. В этом я уверен. Жаль только, что сделано это будет за счет честных налогоплательщиков, а не за счет проворовавшихся чинуш, которые просто будут продолжать наживаться. Талантливые люди в России способны (и будут) работать за копейки, в отличии от сытого Запада.
    Ah, yes, the dreaded CIA agents did it to you. Are these two men still wanted for questioning, товарищ?




    Oh, and btw, there are plenty of talented people working in the US (and the rest of the world for that matter) for peanuts, while some Russian oligarch г*внюки live it up. It's called "life" and sometimes it sucks. Don't blame the rest of the world for the fact that a handful of Russian rat-b*stards raped the country.
    Заранее благодарю всех за исправление ошибок в моём русском.

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    Мы сейчас говорим о том, почему США опять является для России врагом номер один. Доверие к Штатам, если оно и было, оказалось очень сильно подорванным в результате их действий, как в отношении России, так и в мире, и это очень прискорбно. Тем более если учесть, что в России очень не любят чужих, и особенно, унижение от чужаков и, конечно, когда многие американские политики начинают бить себя ногами в грудь и кричать направо и налево, что они развалили русских без единого выстрела, а теперь будут диктовать русским те правила, по которым должны жить люди второго сорта (неамериканцы и неевропейцы). Это, кончено, не играет на пользу Западу, а создает ощущения, что русские никому не нужны.
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    BTW I'm a leutenant, not private.
    You're still at the bottom of the barrel. Believe me, you won't get any respect untill at least O-4.
    Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    BTW I'm a leutenant, not private.
    You're still at the bottom of the barrel. Believe me, you won't get any respect untill at least O-4.
    I've never wanted to have anything with the army in common. They've made me do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil

    I've never wanted to have anything with the army in common. They've made me do that.
    Неправда, была возможность идти служить альтернативно. Так что не "they've made", а "deliberatly I made my choice"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishau_
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil

    I've never wanted to have anything with the army in common. They've made me do that.
    Неправда, была возможность идти служить альтернативно. Так что не "they've made", а "deliberatly I made my choice"
    Когда передо мной стоял выбор, закона об альтернативной службе ещё не было и в помине и был ещё жив в памяти лозунг "Защита социалистического отчечества - есть священный долг каждого советского человека".
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    Да-а... Священный долг, это - оксюморон. Священным может быть право. А долг, коль скоро его надо в любом случае исполнять, может быть только долгом. Если человек что-то должен, как это может быть священным или не священным? Эх, старый глупый совок скоро вернется.
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    The Cold War was over years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSlav
    Of course the Cold War is still going on (sort of). We've known that for years.
    The Cold War was over at the times of Gorbatchev and Eltsin. I mean that cold war which was a continuation of the WW2.

    On the other hands, nuclear weapons make wars between "Great Powers" seem to be always cold. Thus, one might say Clemlin opens a new cold war against USA and NATO. If so, it is a pitty: I hoped Russia is not the empire of evil anymore.

    "The Cold War" was really over. The USA have nomore engagement in defending Europe (and Germany, in particular). The WW2 is completely over in Europe. On the other hand, the USA still have duties in defending Israel, Japan, Taiwan. Those dities were implied to the USA and UK as they were the only true winners in the WW2. Thus, the USA now is free to leave NATO. If USA still support NATO, this is because USA hopes NATO to support the defense of Israel and the anti-terroristic actions. As often NATO declines, as in Iraq, as soon USA can retract from NATO. Baltic countries have to realize that NATO is not so reliable as they might wish.

    In conclusion, the USA are not interested in Russia. Actually, the USA are interested in the safety of Russian nuclear weapons only.

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    Those dities were implied to the USA and UK as they were the only true winners in the WW2.
    LOL.
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    Re: The Cold War was over years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by christo_tamarin
    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSlav
    Of course the Cold War is still going on (sort of). We've known that for years.
    The Cold War was over at the times of Gorbatchev and Eltsin. I mean that cold war which was a continuation of the WW2.

    On the other hands, nuclear weapons make wars between "Great Powers" seem to be always cold. Thus, one might say Clemlin opens a new cold war against USA and NATO. If so, it is a pitty: I hoped Russia is not the empire of evil anymore.

    "The Cold War" was really over. The USA have nomore engagement in defending Europe (and Germany, in particular). The WW2 is completely over in Europe. On the other hand, the USA still have duties in defending Israel, Japan, Taiwan. Those dities were implied to the USA and UK as they were the only true winners in the WW2. Thus, the USA now is free to leave NATO. If USA still support NATO, this is because USA hopes NATO to support the defense of Israel and the anti-terroristic actions. As often NATO declines, as in Iraq, as soon USA can retract from NATO. Baltic countries have to realize that NATO is not so reliable as they might wish.

    In conclusion, the USA are not interested in Russia. Actually, the USA are interested in the safety of Russian nuclear weapons only.
    And they say that we in the USSR were "brainwashed".
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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