Thread: Вопросы по грамматике и значению слов (by Simon000001

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Как переводить по-английски *чуть не* в предложении *Уже шел слушок что чуть не племянник того Жукова *?
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There was a whisper that he is nearly Zhukov's nephew.
Я бы так перевел. Но лучше услышать носителей, конечно. И тема не в том разделе, кстати.

Originally Posted by Simon000001

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Как перевести на английский *чуть не* в предложении *Уже шел слушок что чуть не племянник того Жукова *?
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"Чуть ли не" is used to express doubts about something - about the rumor in this case. "There was even a rumor that he is a nephew of the Zhukov" I think will do.

Rumor had it that it was no less than Zhukov's nephew who... (и так далее)

PS. I am not a native speaker

BTW, you can't translate чуть не separately, you can translate the whole sentence in this particular context.

Originally Posted by alexsms

Rumor had it that it was no less than Zhukov's nephew who... (и так далее)

Hmmm, so would it be possible to use a construction like "слушок, что не кто йной, как племянник..." instead?

Originally Posted by alexsms

PS. I am not a native speaker

Holy cow! Is your native language another Slavic one? Or have you been living in Russia for many years now?

P.S. Oh, wait... I guess I misunderstood! You were saying that you're not a native speaker of English, and weren't 100% sure about whether the English construction sounded colloquial? In any case, "it was no less than" or "it was none other than" both sound totally okay to me.

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

P.S. Oh, wait... I guess I misunderstood! You were saying that you're not a native speaker of English, and weren't 100% sure about whether the English construction sounded colloquial? In any case, "it was no less than" or "it was none other than" both sound totally okay to me.

yes, I meant English is not my native language, my native language is Russian.

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Какая разница с "чуть не" и "чуть ли не"?

Originally Posted by Simon000001

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Какая разница с "чуть не" и "чуть ли не"?

"чуть ли не" - is slightly more emphatic, "ли" is sort of a "language gasket" here.

"слушок, что не кто йной, как племянник..."

Правильно: "никто иной, как племянник". I'd say, phrase made this way indicates more certainty that "he" is, in fact, Zhukov's nephew.

... "it was none other than" both sound totally okay to me.

The construction "Rumor had it that..." is unfamiliar to me. Is it really correct?

Originally Posted by maxmixiv

...The construction "Rumor had it that..." is unfamiliar to me. Is it really correct?

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Originally Posted by maxmixiv

Правильно: "никто иной, как племянник".

Не, друг, это не правильно. http://www.genon.ru/GetAnswer.aspx?q...c-82d4eef41159

Hmmm, so would it be possible to use a construction like "слушок, что не кто иной, как племянник..." instead?

Я думаю да, Throbert. Твоя фраза и фраза автора темы значат примерно оно и то же. "Не кто иной" - книжное выражение, а с чуть [ли] не - разговорное (иногда ироничная). "Слушок, не кто иной" - это нечто: я вижу в ней сарказм! Наверное, из-за смеси уменьшительного "слушок" и книжного "не кто иной".

I think it would. Your sentence and Simon's one mean pretty much the same thing. "Не кто иной" is a bookish expression while чуть-ли-не one is colloquial. (sometimes ironical). "Слушок, не кто иной" is really something - there's sarcasm in it, I think!