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    Help people who study Russian.............

    I want to say the below in my auto-signature, but I just can't work out how to say it in a grammatically correct way...;


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    "Help people who study Russian, by pronouncing words and sentences in Russian at [site 1] and [site 2]".

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna
    "Help people who study Russian, by pronouncing words and sentences in Russian at [site 1] and [site 2]".
    Помогите изучающим русский язык, наговаривая слова и предложения на сайтах ...

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    Thanks! I have updated my auto-signature with your translation!

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    Помогите изучающим русский язык, наговаривая слова и предложения на сайтах Rhinospike и Forvo.
    I've signed up to Rhinospoke and sometimes I listen to English speakers. But I cannot speak myself, I have awful diction. Sorry.

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    But what is going on with "изучающим"?? I can't even find it in a conjugation table... http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B8...B0%D1%82%D1%8C

    I started writing "Помогите люди которые изучают....."

    Then I realised I was probably doing a rather bad direct translation and I got confused about how to say "Russian language" after that sentence anyway... and gave up...

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna
    I"Помогите людям, которые изучают....."
    люди, которые изучают = люди, изучающие or just изучающие, it's a participle.
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna
    But what is going on with "изучающим"?? I can't even find it in a conjugation table... http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B8...B0%D1%82%D1%8C

    I started writing "Помогите люди которые изучают....."

    Then I realised I was probably doing a rather bad direct translation and I got confused about how to say "Russian language" after that sentence anyway... and gave up...
    Изучающий (nom. sing.) - изучающим (dat. pl.) is a participle derived from verb изучать (to study). In Rusian a participle can play the role of a noun and even can become a subject. In my example "изучающим" stands for "людям, изучающим" but it would be redundant information (because who, except humans, can learn the language? ) It's not incorrect, but slightly err... overweight, I think.
    On the other side such constructions (when a participle takes place of a noun) often seem a little too formal. That's the question of balance, IMO.

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    Re: Help people who study Russian.............

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna
    изучающим
    It's here изучать The present participle is lower down, Причастие настоящего времени, and there are several table with.

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