Thread: Cat how is this translated please

I know how to speak the word "Cat"in Russian sounds like Koshka but to me "Cat" in Russian is кат but surely this cant be right.. can it ?i-If it isn't then how is it spelt and why? Or is it spelt using the Russian equivalent of Koshka.

Also how is Dog,Lion,and Whale translated .. If you can help I can then try to work out how the word is translated as I know how these words sound.

It seems to me that though you might say Dog in Enghlish and the pronunciation of the Russian word sounds like Sa-(bacha) this with the sound like (baka) the actual Russian witten word is somewhat different.

Cat - кошка (f) / кот (m)
Dog - собака (f) / пёс (m)
Lion - лев (m)
Whale - кит (m)
If the sex of a cat is unknown or irrelevant, we usually call it кошка (not кот).
If the sex of a dog is unknown or irrelevant, we usually call it собака (not пёс).
Regarding pronunciation, pronounce these words following the usual Russian pronunciation rules. Stresses for cat, dog are кОшка, собАка.

The "bachka" ending is a diminuitive-"doggie." You might want to go to www.multitran.ru and download their 400,000 entry English-Russian dictionary.

Originally Posted by challenger

The "bachka" ending is a diminuitive-"doggie." You might want to go to www.multitran.ru and download their 400,000 entry English-Russian dictionary.

Thanks for the link but what part do I download from this page seeing as my Russian reading is not very good at the moment, is there a specific word or link I need to click on in order for me to download it, would I be right in presuming it has English- Russian translation/

Originally Posted by ang12el

I know how to speak the word "Cat"in Russian sounds like Koshka but to me "Cat" in Russian is кат but surely this cant be right.. can it ?i-If it isn't then how is it spelt and why? Or is it spelt using the Russian equivalent of Koshka.

Also how is Dog,Lion,and Whale translated .. If you can help I can then try to work out how the word is translated as I know how these words sound.

It seems to me that though you might say Dog in Enghlish and the pronunciation of the Russian word sounds like Sa-(bacha) this with the sound like (baka) the actual Russian witten word is somewhat different.

One could probably give you a couple dozen words, all translated into English as "cat" with sligtly different meanings, and invent just as much. Just as it goes for any noun, especially animate things, and other parts of speach as well to a bit lesser extent. It's one thing that makes Russian so different from English and that is usually lost in translation.

Originally Posted by laxxy

Originally Posted by ang12el

I know how to speak the word "Cat"in Russian sounds like Koshka but to me "Cat" in Russian is кат but surely this cant be right.. can it ?i-If it isn't then how is it spelt and why? Or is it spelt using the Russian equivalent of Koshka.

Also how is Dog,Lion,and Whale translated .. If you can help I can then try to work out how the word is translated as I know how these words sound.

It seems to me that though you might say Dog in Enghlish and the pronunciation of the Russian word sounds like Sa-(bacha) this with the sound like (baka) the actual Russian witten word is somewhat different.

One could probably give you a couple dozen words, all translated into English as "cat" with sligtly different meanings, and invent just as much. Just as it goes for any noun, especially animate things, and other parts of speach as well to a bit lesser extent. It's one thing that makes Russian so different from English and that is usually in translation.

blimey laxxy talk about confusing me like I said "There is more than one way to skin a cat" however in respect of the above post by challanger if anyone can advise on the link I need to click on to download the correct dictonary I would greatly apprecaite it

С уважением,
Дэвид

I know how to speak the word "Cat"in Russian sounds like Koshka but to me "Cat" in Russian is кат but surely this cant be right.. can it ?i-If it isn't then how is it spelt and why?

Why? Good question.

May be I could not catch you idea properly, but is something you're doing a kind of rewriting an English term in Russian letters, just letter to letter, in order to obtain the supposed Russian equivalint of the English original word?

http://multitran.ru/c/m.exe?a=DownloadFile&HL=2

And then you can pick the one with two thousand or four hundred thousand entries.

Originally Posted by ang12el

Originally Posted by laxxy

that is usually lost in translation.

blimey laxxy talk about confusing me like I said "There is more than one way to skin a cat" however in respect of the above post by challanger if anyone can advise on the link I need to click on to download the correct dictonary I would greatly apprecaite it

С уважением,
Дэвид

probably you are looking for this one:
http://www.multitran.ru/DownLoad/mtlong.exe

as for the confusion -- English word "cat" does not even distinguish between male and female, young and old cats, and the finer things like the attitude of the speaker, that are also often embedded into the Russian words, have to be translated with extra words too, pretty much always imprecisely. One really needs to learn the language, the way such words are formed and the context the suffixes and prefixes are used in to recognize and understand them properly.

Conversely, some of the word forms you hear might not be even found in dictionaries, or they can be insufficiently described.[/b]

Originally Posted by laxxy

Originally Posted by ang12el

Originally Posted by laxxy

that is usually lost in translation.

blimey laxxy talk about confusing me like I said "There is more than one way to skin a cat" however in respect of the above post by challanger if anyone can advise on the link I need to click on to download the correct dictonary I would greatly apprecaite it

С уважением,
Дэвид

probably you are looking for this one:
http://www.multitran.ru/DownLoad/mtlong.exe

as for the confusion -- English word "cat" does not even distinguish between male and female, young and old cats, and the finer things like the attitude of the speaker, that are also often embedded into the Russian words, have to be translated with extra words too, pretty much always imprecisely. One really needs to learn the language, the way such words are formed and the context the suffixes and prefixes are used in to recognize and understand them properly.

Conversely, some of the word forms you hear might not be even found in dictionaries, or they can be insufficiently described.[/b]

I think I understand the difference now Russian is a bit more complex in that it is more expresive.


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