Thread: Years, Rubles

No, I was just joking. I was saying that my brain hurts trying to understand these "plural" and "pluralers".

I think I just need to spend less time on this forum and more time studying. But this is how I spend my time at work. Kinda boring job, at the moment.

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

Could you tell us more about them? And what comes after the last one on the list below?
двое
трое
пятеро
четверо
шестеро
семеро

I'll guess...восемеро?

Originally Posted by Platinum

No, I was just joking. I was saying that my brain hurts trying to understand these "plural" and "pluralers".

I think I just need to spend less time on this forum and more time studying. But this is how I spend my time at work. Kinda boring job, at the moment.

Dude, it ain't that hard:

After numbers the following rule applies (and as a scientist, you like rules, I know ):

1 - singular (один стол, одна бутылка)
2 - 4 genetive singular (два стола, две бутылки)
5 - 20 genetive plural (пять столов, пять бутылок)

Just memorize the cases and their endings and voila!

Originally Posted by Platinum

I'll guess...восемеро?

восьмеро

Close, but no cigar

Originally Posted by fantom605

Aah, an interesting twist... so,


три часов = "three hours"
and
три часа = "three o'clock"

??

-Fantom

Actually I just wanted to twist a bit more your answer with my comment about пять часов and I didn't mean this to be a trick question to you.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

пятеро тысячеро трицдатьеро девятеро часов?

That's cool! I think it's "пять тысяч тридцать девять часов". But your version is better!

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

восьмеро

Close, but no cigar

Doggone it! I should have known that! That's like:

after eight o'clock = после восьми часов


I understand what you said about memorizing the endings. ANd I understand why it's восьми. До and после add and и ending to the numbers (or an "a" ending to days of the week, i.e. До понедельника). But what I don't understand is when and why you do the "-epo" endings.

Oh! So many questions to answer! Well, I'll try to answer them all:
You can't say восьмеро in Russian.

двое
трое
пятеро
четверо
шестеро
семеро

That's a very hard question for me to answer. You can say: двое часов, трое часов, четверо часов but you can't say двое...четверо часа. You can say пять часов, шесть часов, семь часов, восемь часов but you can't say пятеро...восьмером (that's the right word for восемь). At least, it looks akward to me. Note that I am talking about 'watches' not about hours.

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

And what comes after the last one on the list below?
двое
трое
пятеро
четверо
шестеро
семеро

восьмеро, девятеро, десятеро, одиннадцатеро...
That's correct but it's used rather rarely. Most of people say just восемь, девять, десять...

Originally Posted by ReDSanchous

You can't say восьмеро in Russian.

Reeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaallyyyyy???
You challenge Harper Collins Russian Conscise Dictionary? Agreed it is very rare, but it is entirely possible!

Originally Posted by Rostova

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

пятеро тысячеро трицдатьеро девятеро часов?

That's cool! I think it's "пять тысяч тридцать девять часов". But your version is better!

But wait, won't people confuse that with 5039 o'clock?

Let us take a simpler, less ridiculous question.

How do you say

11 o'clock versus 11 watches?
Would both be одиннадцать часов?

Yes, you are right. It would be одиннадцать часов.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

11 o'clock versus 11 watches?
Would both be одиннадцать часов?

If you so much want to show that you are talking about watches, you can use this very strange word "одиннадцатеро". But if you use the word "часы" in some context, everyone will understand what you mean

Reeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaallyyyyy???
You challenge Harper Collins Russian Conscise Dictionary? Agreed it is very rare, but it is entirely possible!

First of all, I'm a Russian native speaker. Second of all, I need no Russian dictionary to say whether восьмеро is correct or not.
I never use it. That's enough for me. I don't care about possible past usage of the word восьмеро since I live in present-day Russia and speak the modern Russian language

But if you use the word "часы" in some context, everyone will understand what you mean

That's absolutely right! EVERYONE will get what you mean if you say одиннадцать часов. If someone said одиннацатеро to me I would correct him regardless of whether he'd be Russian or any other nationality.

[quote=kalinka_vinnie]Dude, it ain't that hard:

After numbers the following rule applies (and as a scientist, you like rules, I know ):

1 - singular (один стол, одна бутылка)
2 - 4 genetive singular (два стола, две бутылки)
5 - 20 genetive plural (пять столов, пять бутылок)

Just memorize the cases and their endings and voil[b]

Originally Posted by ReDSanchous

First of all, I'm a Russian native speaker. Second of all, I need no Russian dictionary to say whether восьмеро is correct or not.
I never use it. That's enough for me. I don't care about possible past usage of the word восьмеро since I live in present-day Russia and speak the modern Russian language

Ok, не обижайся, я не никого не хотел обидеть... просто там было написанно восьмеро, и ты говроил что нет такого слова... прости! судя по твоему аватару, чёрт меня возьмёт из-за этого

Originally Posted by ReDSanchous

That's absolutely right! EVERYONE will get what you mean if you say одиннадцать часов. If someone said одиннацатеро to me I would correct him regardless of whether he'd be Russian or any other nationality.

It's kind of a relief to hear that.

Ok, не обижайся, я не никого не хотел обидеть... просто там было написанно восьмеро, и ты говроил что нет такого слова... прости! судя по твоему аватару, чёрт меня возьмёт из-за этого

Я понял. Просто написал, что я действительно считаю, что восьмеро в современном русском языке не используется. Я даже подошёл к сестре, чтобы выяснить, что она думает по этому поводу. Она тоже сказала, что восьмеро и т.д. не используются.
А что у меня с аватаром такое? По-моему, это из Diablo.

Originally Posted by ReDSanchous

If someone said одиннацатеро to me I would correct him regardless of whether he'd be Russian or any other nationality.

It's an overbold position! You risk have a very long discussion with some professor of russian language