Thread: NonRussian films (work in progress)

Oh no, Лёёёёёёваааааа! I understand all your thoughts about Thackeray, I just wanted to make clear one phrase... Because I didn't understand it and especially the word "fair". Because judging by the whole structure of the sentence ("is the Life to the heroes of the book") it seemed to be "жизнь цинична/жестока и [что-то, что-то] к героям романа" in Russian. I just wondered about it since rockzmom corrected it in another way.
Well, I see now that my curiosity was a fatal error.

P.S. Тьфу, дошло. Fair - это "справедливый".

А! Да? Я последние годы начал подозревать, что словао справедливый пишется по-английски не совсем так, как я привык его писать...



PS О господи!

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Originally Posted by ski-ops

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp

This only applies to American English. With British English the punctuation only goes within the quotation marks if it was present in the original quote.

ski-ops,
So you mean for ONCE, American English has an easier rule to remember???? This is truly amazing!!!

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Originally Posted by ski-ops

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp

This only applies to American English. With British English the punctuation only goes within the quotation marks if it was present in the original quote.

ski-ops,
So you mean for ONCE, American English has an easier rule to remember???? This is truly amazing!!!

I would say that American English has simplified rules in general -). The Leof's review was a really touching thing! Great job!

Originally Posted by Оля

Now I intend to read it in English... some time.

If you have not already located a copy online, here are some links to the English version of "Vanity Fair." This book is available without copywrite now.

Vanity fair : a novel without a hero
Thackeray, William Makepeace, 1811-1863.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(novel)

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/599 - This site has it in Plucker (for Palm™ organizer or smartphone), HTML, and Plain Text formats.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5092532/Vanity-Fair - This site allows you to read it online in a great format and even lets you adjust the font size (which is really nice). You can also download it in PDF or Plain Text. If you want to download it, you will need to establish a free account, if you do not have one already.

Thanks, rockzmom. I've seen it also on http://www.bartleby.com
But I actually mean that I'm going to buy a "paper" book in English. It's not that hard, but I just need to get rid of some problems and "tune up" myself for such hard but interesting reading.

Originally Posted by Оля

P.S. rockzmom, your thread somehow is standing still now... When can we hope to read your new review about some movie (if you don't mind me asking)?

Yes, yes, yes... I know I have been delinquent, a thousand apologizes.

I can tell you that the girls have been keeping me busy with Shakespeare (A Midsummer’s Night Dream and Romeo & Juliet), Cleopatra (Her lasting Legacy), Zheng He (China's most famous navigator) and The Ear, the Eye, the Arm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ear...ye_and_the_Arm.

Shakespeare’s Midsummer has been completed and R&J is just starting. The Ear... I have read before, so that should not be too time consuming. Within the next two weeks, Cleopatra and Zheng He should be completed as well! If anyone studied these or has thoughts on these topics, I would be pleased to hear from you!!!

Also, I have learned that sadly, “Russia, the USSR and the Commonwealth of Independent States” (currently the main areas of study to be …. “Identify the major physical and cultural characteristics of the former Soviet Union” and “Describe the evolution of the Russian civilization from czarist Russia through the end of the Soviet Era”) will not be studied in 7th grade as the curriculum had indicated.

It has now been moved to 11th grade. Of course this means that you all will be stuck with me for a good three or four years because I am counting on EACH AND EVERY ONE of you to help me with this when the time comes.

All this means, that I hope to get back to watching films within a week, two tops!

"You're gonna need a bigger boat."
Jaws, 1975
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073195/quotes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkl3eXAHTRM&NR=1

I LOVE this movie, can quote to distraction. Russian connection? I invite some of the Russian kids I work with in summer to go fishing, then watch this movie on a slow night at the motel. They don't go swimming after work for a couple nights

"The Russians Are Coming the Russians Are Coming" 1966
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060921/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_nGW7pWBDY

Russian connection? Every summer our peaceful New England community is invaded by Russians, I don't mind though.

While waiting for my next review (or anyone else’s review… thanks, capecoddah for yours) I would like to throw out a topic for discussion to the group here.

Why do you think, even now after many years have passed… American movies and television portray Russians (almost always) as mobsters, spies or thugs? Why never as the heroes? Now I must admit, in the examples below, “Life” did have one of the Russians, “the Architect” be a good guy, but overall, the rest were just the same stereotypes as not "nice" people.

And in Russian movies, how are Americans portrayed?

Here are two very recent examples:

Thick as Thieves (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1112782/
Release: 17 April 2009, but out now here http://movie25.com/thick-as-thieves-2009_4065.html
Description: A veteran thief (Morgan Freeman) recruits a younger crook (Antonio Banderas) to help him pull off one final job in order to repay his debt to the Russian mob and save his god-daughter (Radha Mitchell).

Life (NBC TV Series) Dec 12, 2008 http://www.hulu.com/watch/49449/life-trapdoor
While investigating a triple execution-style homicide, Reese and Crews go up against an old nemesis, a Russian mob boss who has woven a deadly and wicked web.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by rockzmom

And in Russian movies, how are Americans portrayed?

Mostly, as big children, I think. Who speak very loudly and always smile. Never as "bad guys". But actually, you wouldn't find many Americans in Russian movies.

Originally Posted by Оля

Mostly, as big children, I think.

I think I would say "big babies" instead of "big children."

Originally Posted by Оля

Who speak very loudly

Oh, yeah, we speak loudly so that we can get a word in edgewise. Otherwise your thoughts/vote/idea will never be heard and you end up with the worst chores in the house or getting blamed for something you did not do!

Originally Posted by Оля

and always smile.

Of course, even when hula hopping, eating watermelon or just blow drying our hair!


we can't help it !!!!!

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Life (NBC TV Series) Dec 12, 2008 http://www.hulu.com/watch/49449/life-trapdoor
While investigating a triple execution-style homicide, Reese and Crews go up against an old nemesis, a Russian mob boss who has woven a deadly and wicked web.

Thanks!

Unfortunately, hulu.com site allows to watch its video just to the users from USA. (

Originally Posted by Scrabus

Unfortunately, hulu.com site only allows users to watch its video [s:239jod0p]with[/s:239jod0p] who have US IP addresses. [s:239jod0p]just to the users from USA[/s:239jod0p]. ( OR.... Unfortunately, hulu.com only allows people in the USA to watch videos posted on their Web site.

I think I have found a site which will let you view a number of US TV shows and I have bookmarked it for the episode in question. Click the play button and then a pop up screen with an ad comes up that you simply need to click the "skip this ad" button and it will return you back to the first screen and then hit the play arrow again.

Sorry, no subtitles for these programs. But they are very current and they also have back seasons as well.
http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/16148

Let me know if you have any other problems...

"Leave the gun, take the canolli"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-y9-m-CU0&NR=1
WOW!!! Godfather 1 & 2 are quotable

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by rockzmom

And in Russian movies, how are Americans portrayed?

Mostly, as big children, I think. Who speak very loudly and always smile. Never as "bad guys". But actually, you wouldn't find many Americans in Russian movies.

I have found one
[video:vryw1klg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkX6v-vF0II[/video:vryw1klg]

Originally Posted by studyr

I have found one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkX6v-vF0II

studyr - - I am lost the video you posted Is there anyway you or someone else can just give me the "Reader's Digest Condensed Version" of it? Remember... I am the one who knows NO Russian on this forum so I am at the mercy of the smarter ones to help me out.

Okay, so I found the film trailer for this movie, yet it does not help out too much but it looks funny!!!
[video:32j6llkb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Xd23I2Dv4[/video:32j6llkb]

Thanks!

I think this movies good to watch to answer how Americans portrayed in our movies, I think its a good examples "Russian man among American people, among American culture"
Американская дочь American Daughter http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112348/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ0eORkXdeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqiAHmSXcF8
Брат 2 The Brother 2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238883/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyY1HbnacPo

I think we love to see themselves as a "simple hero" into the "cruel world of money", and this world in some movies associate with USA. But as you'll can see in this movies, many of Americans portrayed not at all сruel, many of them very kind.

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Originally Posted by studyr

I have found one

studyr - - I am lost the video you posted Is there anyway you or someone else can just give me the "Reader's Digest Condensed Version" of it? Remember... I am the one who knows NO Russian on this forum so I am at the mercy of the smarter ones to help me out.

Thanks!

Deja Vu (1988 film)

They say "comedy thriller" but actually it's a grotesque. Russian and American characters are stereotypes in the purest form.

In the fragment presented by studyr a Soviet professor asks the guide to introduce him to the American professor (who is actually a killer). Then a women on a bicycle reminds to the professor that he has to pass GTO tests. The instructor is unaware that the another guy is an American. He demands from him to shoot. When he realizes who is it he become highly displeased by the fact that American professors are ready for labour and defense but Russian professors are not.

Originally Posted by Полуношник

Then a women on a bicycle reminds to the professor that he has to pass GTO tests

...or else he will not be allowed to take part in subbotnik.
That was funny.

[quote=E-learner]

Originally Posted by "Полуношник":2rrjsm86

Then a women on a bicycle reminds to the professor that he has to pass GTO tests

...or else he will not be allowed to take part in subbotnik.
That was funny.[/quote:2rrjsm86]
Not only he but whole his department. Awful punishment