Thread: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

What she meant was it has been altered or rather refurbished.
Yes, it has to be downloaded. I did and it turned out to be a nice almost familiar song, a teaser, a quiz for aliens, if you know what I mean.

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Originally Posted by rockzmom

ekaterinak, a couple of questions for you about this.
One, as you know my Russian is well cough, cough... so, do we need to download the songs to listen to them?

O! Excuse me! I did not look at this page with English speakers glance. Sorry. I set right the situation
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64375110057b2cdd/ singer is Nikolai Noskov from "Gorky Park" band
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64375318210db51e/ singer is Larisa Dolina

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Two, you used the word "redactions" in your description. Redacted is a word "usually" used to mean "to obscure or remove (text) from a document prior to publication or release" and is used a great deal by lawyers (and since I used to work with them so much is the only reason I know the word so well ). So, just to be clear, the lyrics had words taken "out" or were they changed, or were words added? This is interesting. Can you clarify a little more about this?

In the first time (in 1943) the lyric changed at all.
In the second time (in 1977) only some line of the text was changed.
In the third time (in 2000) the lyric was changed at all again.
But during all these times the main meaning (idea) did not be changed.

What is this song about? Do you remember “Gone with the Wind” novel by Margaret Mitchell. There is a reflection by Scarlett about her “Tara” (“Tara” is her land). This reflection are located somewhere to the end of the novel. She realized in it that the main thing for everybody (including herself) was a homeland, and this thing was worth everything at all.
I think, this song wakes up the thoughts like Scarlett’s ones. The song takes from everybody their best sides and feelings. This song expresses love to homeland.

Originally Posted by alexB

What she meant was it has been altered or rather refurbished.
Yes, it has to be downloaded. I did and it turned out to be a nice almost familiar song, a teaser, a quiz for aliens, if you know what I mean.

it is wonderful song, is not it?
Мне очень нравится. Даже не могу свои восторги описывать на английском.

Originally Posted by studyr

Originally Posted by rockzmom

just to be clear, the lyrics had words taken "out" or were they changed, or were words added? This is interesting.

studyr, проверьте, пожалуйста, свои личные сообщения. Я Вам отправила одно.

Originally Posted by ekaterinak

Originally Posted by rockzmom

ekaterinak, a couple of questions for you about this.
One, as you know my Russian is well cough, cough... so, do we need to download the songs to listen to them?

O! Excuse me! I did not look at this page with English speakers glance. Sorry. I set right the situation
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64375110057b2cdd/ singer is Nikolai Noskov from "Gorky Park" band
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64375318210db51e/ singer is Larisa Dolina

No problem. I tried Google Translate with the first site and I was still not 100% sure which buttons to click and such as some things did not translate. Thanks for the new links and for all the background information about the song!

Okay, now I get it after listening to the songs. It took me a while to remember where I had heard the melody before. I was racking my brains going "I know this song. Where have I heard it? Was it in English?"
And then as I was reviewing my post it came to me and I felt really stupid and happy at the same time when I remembered.

Very good ekaterinak! It is a lovely song and previously I had only head the melody before and not the lyrics so thank you for posting both of these! No, no! I was wrong! I now remember exactly where it was I had heard it with the singing in Russian!!! Of course, as I have no understanding of Russian it just all blended together as melody to me. Oh, I feel so much better that I have remembered. You gave me a puzzle like eLearner usally does!

I'll comment more after you respond and post a link to what it was I remembered.

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Okay, now I get it after listening to the songs. It took me a while to remember where I had heard the melody before. I was racking my brains going "I know this song. Where have I heard it? Was it in English?"

I have been noticing before, that some foreign musicians had made the songs with using of our Anthem’s melody. It confirms my opinion as an adding, that it is not ordinary music notes. It is said that music don’t have any borders or any languages. I think, this song is the brightest example of it. I am glad that this music recognizable for you. Of course, I understand that it was not easy task, and I remember, that foreigners don’t listen it during their life (including childhood too) . Thank you very much!
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May be I am a bit partial, but I can’t hold myself, so I publish here another two version Russian Anthem:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/644330465727df00/ singer is Anita Tsoy (Анита Цой)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64433254456fe457/ singer is team “Lyubbe”, solo by Nikolay Rastorguev (группа «Любэ», солист Николай Расторгуев)
Choose that performance which is closer for you.
Here is more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anthem_of_Russia and lyric.
Here is some variants of translations in English http://www.hymn.ru/anthem-russia-2000-en.html
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Originally Posted by rockzmom

You gave me a puzzle like eLearner usally does![/color]
I'll comment more after you respond and post a link to what it was I remembered.

I am are intrigued by you very much. How did you guess my little puzzle?

Originally Posted by ekaterinak

I am are intrigued by you very much. How did you guess my little puzzle?

While I am certain I have heard it other places, you must remember my passion... movies... so it was a movie that I remembered it from. One that I am certain all of the native Ruissians will trash because of the horrible accents and stereotypes, yet I liked it for the witty comeback lines, I must admit I am a Sean Connery fan, and the fact that I was able to recall a line from the movie and then impress a professor and prove to my husband (who was also taking the class) that movies can teach you something. Just to explain, the class was about the old Novell Netware 5.0 and the line from the movie was "One ping" and I remembered that and answered the professor's question about how to test a computer. BTW, no one else in the class knew the answer. hehehe, gotta love movies!

So, what was the movie that you will all trash??? Here is the scene with the song:
[video:25lysned]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmTO9t8Boo[/video:25lysned]

Ekaterina, Rockzmom etc -- you are awesome film and music critics! I love this thread.

Ok, since you mentioned it, I am going to help the Russians to trash "The Hunt for Red October!" There was a lot of publicity surrounding this film - I saw at the cinema when it first came out. It is quite a silly story... The Russian roles are played by miscellaneous Europeans - not by Russian actors. A Swedish actor was in the film and got a lot of criticism for it, because the film was so political. He played a Russian of course...

The plot (story):

A Soviet submarine captain (played by Sean Connery) decides to defect to the United States in a brand new Soviet nuclear submarine. But he doesn't tell the crew/sailors onboard the submarine. The Soviet Navy realises what his plan is and starts pursuing the submarine with the intention of sinking it. (They don't care that this would kill the entire crew.) There is some kind of risk of nuclear war as well, but I forgot the deatils.

Luckily the United States Navy comes to the rescue and saves all the nice people from submarine, while at the same time tricking the USSR into believing that the submarine was sunk. Конец фильма!

The Cold War was still going on when this film was made. So like in all such films, the Russians are portrayed as mainly "evil" apart from those who want to defect to the West, like the submarine captain. If I was Russian I would not watch this film! As far as I know, there were no Soviet films of this type made about the USA - or if there are I have never heard about them.

About the accents etc (sorry rockzmom!) Some Hollywood films that have an "international" plot have such bad accents, national stereotypes and politics that they seem silly to people in Europe for instance. That's how I felt about The Hunt for Red October when I saw it - even though I was only an ignorant teenager at the time! As a Russian time reference, I remember watching this film just after I found out that Viktor Tsoj had died, (a really famous rock musician in Russia).

Originally Posted by Михалков

In a victory of immortal ideas of communism we see the future of our country

P.S. What joint he smoked? I want the same.

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Two bands to watch!

Both of these bands are prime and on the edge with new albums soon to be released. The question is, will their new albums make or break them?

Flyleaf, an alternative metal band that is trying to seperate themselves from a "Christian Band" and a "band made up of Christians." They are scheduled to release their sophomore album, "Memento Mori" (Latin for "Be mindful of death") in August. Their 1st album, released in 2005, went platinum (sold over 1,000,000 copies in the U.S.).

So, as I wrote about back on July 29th, Flyleaf has a new album coming out.
Their first single will be "Again" which they have played in concert a number of times, yet now they have it on an album... AND I found a copy of it out on YouTube....and it rocks!
You can take a listen to it here ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf8OVPGbMAc

If you like the song and want to be WAY "cutting edge" you can download a copy of the song at this link. I have no idea how they got it or how it is out on YouTube as you can't even get this on iTunes or anywhere else yet and per their own Web site "its introduction with the debut single “Again,” set to impact at multiple formats nationwide on August 25th."

BTW, the release date for the full ablum, MEMENTO MORI, is now October 27!

Just for a laugh... A Russian childrens song, as a 1970s European love song.... :"":
The singers are some Finnish people plus Björn Ulveus who later joined Abba...

[video:1n0yc81g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xoqIIq068U[/video:1n0yc81g]

Originally Posted by rockzmom

While I am certain I have heard it other places...

It was so long ago. I have a vaguely remembering about of this film’s name, “Hunt for Red October”. This film does not have any success in Russia. The reason of it is its unlikelihood. The terrible accent is as an addition only. It was a very big mistake of Sean Connery because for about 120 000 000 inhabitants of Russia were amazed and many of them went away from Connerry’s fan club. It was his commercial miscalculation.
Generally I know only one foreign film is about cold war which is having a depth of scenario and an excellent actor's play. It is ”K-19: The Widowmaker” with Harrison Ford. Base of the film is a real fact. This film is about THE courage. There are not any marionettes.
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What is new in music????

Originally Posted by ekaterinak

What is new in music????

Did you take a listen to the new Flyleaf song? If so, what did you think of it? My girls have been listening to nothing else ALL weekend.
Here is the link again for you ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf8OVPGbMAc

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Originally Posted by ekaterinak

What is new in music????

Did you take a listen to the new Flyleaf song? If so, what did you think of it? My girls have been listening to nothing else ALL weekend.
Here is the link again for you ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf8OVPGbMAc

Hmmm... Is it a sorrow song? (I thought “Yes, it is a sorrow song”. It was my first felling as a Russian native speaker). I warn, I don’t understand inflections of English lyric by my ear. I saw that the song’s video has the lyric, but I feel, I need to do translation to define my opinion. Lyric is always more complicated than prose.

Did your hear it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pVSXCohyrQ ? I don’t know whether to get it to USA from Europe?

from Eurovision 2009, Iceland
by Yohanna

Is it true

You say you really know me
You’re not afraid to show me
What is in your eyes
So tell me ’bout the rumours
Are they only rumours?
Are they only lies?

Falling out of a perfect dream
Coming out of the blue

Is it true? (Is it true?)
Is it over?
Did I throw it away?
Was it you? (Was it you?)
Did you tell me
You would never leave me this way?

If you really knew me
You couldn’t do this to me
You would be my friend
If one of us is lying
There’s no use in trying
No need to pretend

Falling out of a perfect dream
Coming out of the blue

Is it true? (Is it true?)
Is it over?
Did I throw it away?
Was it you? (Was it you?)
Did you tell me
You would never leave me this way?

Is it true? (Is it true?)
Is it over?
Did I throw it away?
Was it you? (Was it you?)
Did you tell me
You would never leave me this way?

(Is it real?)
(Did I dream it?)
Will I wake from this pain?
Is it true? (Is it true?)
Is it over?
Baby, did I throw it away?
Ooh… is it true?
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And one more thing. It is for dance. It was created by Russian musician. His name is Dj YANKOVSKI. There is a lyric in French. We often speak in Russian that French is a languages of Love. I suppose it bonds with French books which are well-known and loved by Russian people. Another reason is amazing melodiousness of French language. As for me French words sound as a music. Russian old nobility (which was in Russia until 1917) could make choose. And they did it. They chose French as a second language. They knew it as perfectly as their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEWiIZOlMxw
“Foule Sentimentale” by DJ YANKOVSKI
Who knows French? Who can tell us what this song say to? Please.... help

ekaterinak, I'll get back to your questions and song posting in a bit.

Here is a new song by Mika (who as a child was trained by Alla Ardakov (Ablaberdyeva), a Russian opera professional) off his 2nd album, The Boy Who Knew Too Much. The song will be released on iTunes on Sept 6, and then released everywhere on Sept 7th. The album is coming out on Sept 21st.

My girls and I heard the song this past Monday night on a TV show a that we watch here in the States on the ABC Family Channel that is aimed at teenaged girls. It is a new summer show called Make It of Break It. It was the pefect song choice for the plot and on screen action at the time. It was also the final episode of the season, so great placement for Mika! Older daughter right away knew it was Mika as she really liked his previous songs Grace Kelly and Love Today.

It is interesting to note, that there are already three remix versions out of the song!

Here are links to all versions of the song and the lyrics. Which version do you like best?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq0DUAEa5A4 or http://www.mikasounds.com/video original version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsPyC_eTKXA Calvin Harris Radio Edit Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdXOdGrS-4 Mirwais Remix Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKv607yoGFA Don Diablo Remix Version

Lyrics:
Running around like a clown on purpose
Who gives a damn about the family you come from?
No giving up when youre young and you want some

Running around again
Running from running

Waking up
In the midday sun
Whats to live for?
You could see what Ive done
Staring at emotion
In the light of day
I was running
From the things that youd say

We are not what you think we are
We are golden, we are golden.
We are not what you think we are
We are golden, we are golden.

Teenage dreams in a teenage circus
Running around like a clown on purpose
Who gives a damn about the family you come from?
No giving up when youre young and you want some

Running around again
Running from running
Running around again
Running from running

I was a boy
At an open door
Why you staring
Do you still think that you know?
Looking for treasure
In the things that you threw
Like a magpie
I live for glitter, not you

We are not what you think we are
We are golden, we are golden.
We are not what you think we are
We are golden, we are golden.

Teenage dreams in a teenage circus
Running around like a clown on purpose
Who gives a damn about the family you come from
No giving up when youre young and you want some

Now Im sitting alone
Im finally looking around
Left here on my own
Im gonna hurt myself
Maybe losing my mind
Im still wondering why
Had to let the world let it bleed dry

We are not what you think we are
We are not what you think we are
We are not what you think we are
We are golden, we are golden

Teenage dreams in a teenage circus
Running around like a clown on purpose
Who gives a damn about the family you come from
No giving up when youre young and you want some

Running around again
Running from running
Running around again
Running from running

We are not what you think we are
We are golden, we are golden.

Hi, Rockzmom.
Unfortunately the playlist.com is no more accessible from Russia they write that:

Due to licensing restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback in your country...

Originally Posted by CoffeeCup

Hi, Rockzmom.
Unfortunately the playlist.com is no more accessible from Russia they write that:

Due to licensing restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback in your country...

Noooooooo! Before I had most of the songs all linked to files I had uploaded on Fileden.com as the Russian songs just are not out on the Internet and then I maxed out my free bandwidth so I had to try and find songs that were posted by others. I wonder if the songs that are directly from the Fileden are available but others are not? Is there a rhyme or reason? Can you get any songs to work?

Same thing in England.... Not possible to access it.
The idea of a playlist is great though... I can see it, just not listen.

Of course, there are proxy servers etc which circumvent the problem.
But it sort of ruins the enjoyment.

Greedy copyright mafia drives me crazy!

Originally Posted by CoffeeCup

Hi, Rockzmom.
Unfortunately the playlist.com is no more accessible from Russia they write that:

Due to licensing restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback in your country...

These links will help you:
http://www.anonymouse.ws
http://www.sneakme.net
http://www.hidemyass.com