Thread: I support who wants to learn Russian!!!

Originally Posted by Valda

У меня записки заполнять
У меня сон заполнять

It's very funny translation into the Russian language ....and absolutely meaningless... Especially the second phrase May be someone can help with translation

I think that "I got papers to fill" - Я получил документы для заполнения.
The correct translation of the second phrase I don't know

У меня (срочная) потребность во сне.?

У меня (срочная) потребность во сне.?

Очень близко. Но смысл ты уловил верно.Твое предложение, Seraph, найдешь только в книге. А catch up имеет здесь, кажется, разговорный оттенок.


Almost. The sense is accurate, but the phrase sounds bookish. Catch up has rather an informal sense here as far as I know. My translation - мне надо отоспаться. Отоспаться is colloqial. A neutral synonyn is выспаться.

I think that "I got papers to fill" - Я получил документы для заполнения.
The correct translation of the second phrase I don't know

got здесь сокращенно от have got, а have got to = have to, то есть когда речь идет об объективной необходимости. Кое о чем Valda сказала раньше.
То предложение надо перевести. Мне надо заполнить бумаги.

My sentences were kinda clogged with fuzzy slang, sorry

Originally Posted by Valda

"I got some sleeping to catch up with" is slang.

I think you could express the general idea with я давно не высыпаюсь (lit., "For a long time I haven't been getting a good night's sleep").

Also, I think that "make up for" or "catch up on" can be translated, in many contexts, with навёрстывать/наверстать. As in нам надо наверстать пропущенные уроки, "we have to make up for the classes/lessons that were missed."

Hmmm... Google turns up a number of hits for наверстать упущенный сон (i.e., not пропущенный). Does this sound okay to native speakers?

наверстать упущенный сон

Only as a joke I think. The three words or any of their couples are not usually used together. I personally have never heard such cases. Usually we just say выспаться if we mean I've not had enough sleep lately.
Пример:
"Ты спать?" "Если Вы не против." "Но ведь сейчас полдень!" "Да, но, видишь ли, несколько дней я тусил с друзьями день и ночь. Мне надо, так сказать, наверстать упущенный сон."
"Hey, you're going to bed?" "If you don't mind." "But it's midday now!" "Yes, but, you see, I've been clubbing day and night recently, so I got some sleeping to catch up with."
IMO.

Well, I'd like to express my opinion about that.

выспаться - to have a good long sleep, that's all, it doesn't ever imply that you lack some sleep time recently.

BUT there's another derivaty of the verb спать

отоспаться - this one really means to have a good long sleep and get rid of tiredness, weakness, the state of being sleepy etc which you have because you've been lacking sleep either just today or for some longer period of time

Originally Posted by iCake

Well, I'd like to express my opinion about that.

выспаться - to have a good long sleep, that's all, it doesn't ever imply that you lack some sleep time recently.

BUT there's another derivaty of the verb спать

отоспаться - this one really means to have a good long sleep and get rid of tiredness, weakness, the state of being sleepy etc which you have because you've been lacking sleep either just today or for some longer period of time

Hmmm... but could you say "Если человек не выспался, то ему надо отоспаться"?

By the way, another question about something that always confuses me: If I woke up this morning (т.е., часов 9 назад, а не часов "9+24" назад!) feeling very tired and sleepy, should I say:

Я вчера плохо спал.
Я сегодня плохо спал.
Я прошедшей ночью плохо спал.
Я этой ночью плохо спал.

Or...?

Of course, I mean to ask whether the most recent night "belongs" to yesterday, or today?

Я сегодня плохо спал. (good)
Я этой ночью плохо спал. (good)
Я прошедшей ночью плохо спал. (so-so, just uncommon)

Originally Posted by iCake

Well, I'd like to express my opinion about that.

выспаться - to have a good long sleep, that's all, it doesn't ever imply that you lack some sleep time recently.

BUT there's another derivaty of the verb спать

отоспаться - this one really means to have a good long sleep and get rid of tiredness, weakness, the state of being sleepy etc which you have because you've been lacking sleep either just today or for some longer period of time

Да, ты прав, а я бы не прав

Usually we just say выспаться if we mean I've not had enough sleep lately.

Невнимательность.

Yes, you are right and I was wrong becuase inattentive.