Thread: words ending (or not) with a "ь"

could anyone tell me and maybe, make me listen to a few words that end with and without a soft sign. i always have trouble figuring out the difference and i can absolutely not pronounce the difference.

god, i even have a hard time finding such words.

like two words looking exactly the same except for a final "ь" for the second one.

vor and vor' maybe (i think vor' exists:/).

god, i even have a hard time finding such words.

Me too.

(i think vor' exists:/).

No, it doesn't.

Ok, here's a tip for those who have both a mic and a desire to help.

Вон - вонь, кон - конь, гол - голь, бит - бить, правит - править, квасит - квасить, вычислить - вычислит.

пар - парь:

Ran -- Ran', Rana -- Ranya, Dvesti -- Dves'ti, Vorot -- Vorot'.
These words don't exist in pairs, I invented them only on the purpose to show you the difference between hard and soft consonants.

it's getting a bit clearer (it's obviously easier with a N than a R).
thanks a lot, other examples would be very welcome

Originally Posted by possopo

it's getting a bit clearer (it's obviously easier with a N than a R).

Let's try again with R

Btw, "ж"/"жь", "ш"/"шь", "ч"/"чь" sound equally.

And we don't say "гь", "кь", "хь" (we can say it, but these sounds are a rarity).

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by possopo

it's getting a bit clearer (it's obviously easier with a N than a R).

Let's try again with R

Преклоняюсь перед таким чудным ЭРРРРРРРРРРРРРР и ЭРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬ!

Мол - моль, удар - ударь, кон - конь, ос (род. от осы) - ось

thanks everyone, i'm really startig to get the gist!

Originally Posted by MikeM

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by possopo

it's getting a bit clearer (it's obviously easier with a N than a R).

Let's try again with R

Преклоняюсь перед таким чудным ЭРРРРРРРРРРРРРР и ЭРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬРЬ!

я тоже

Originally Posted by Оля

Btw, "ж"/"жь", "ш"/"шь", "ч"/"чь" sound the same.

And we don't say "гь", "кь", "хь" (we can say it, but these sounds are a rarity).