Thread: Требуется помощь зала

Originally Posted by MasterAdmin

Предложение на английском противоречиво само по себе. Вот литературный перевод:

Получил ваше письмо. Ну зато помогло, как обычно.

Получил ваше письмо. Тем не менее, оказалось полезным, как обычно.

Боюсь, что я немножко вырвала из контекста эти две фразы, о которых идет речь на ветке, и поэтому вы его не видите. Но там нет ощущения возражения. Спокойное повествование, никакого конфликта.

That's OK! The context would be helpful as usual, though

...I've received your letter. It was helpful as usual, though.

The person that wrote this has used a pattern, that is used for contradiction. But has used the pattern when no contradiction is present. "Though' should not have been placed there. The person didn't edit their writing. It's a clanger.

Originally Posted by Seraph

The person that wrote this has used a pattern, that is used for contradiction. But has used the pattern when no contradiction is present. "Though' should not have been placed there. The person didn't edit their writing. It's a clanger.

Maybe you are right, but I've heard that meaningless "though" at the end of the sentence million times. So this phenomenon does exist for some reason and, as every word conveys something, it should convey something, too, and should be translated somehow.

Originally Posted by Helenej

Maybe you are right, but I've heard that meaningless "though" at the end of the sentence million times. So this phenomenon does exist for some reason and, as every word conveys something, it conveys something, too, and should be translated somehow.

This error arises when a pattern is similar to another but logic is incorrect. It arises from misuse, and by not being corrected, error propagates, multiplies. It could almost fall into category "scribal lapse". (Scribal error from inattention.)

The error shouldn't be translated.

Originally Posted by Seraph

This error arises when a pattern is similar to another but logic is incorrect. It arises from misuse, and by not being corrected, error propagates, multiplies. It could almost fall into category "scribal lapse". (Scribal error from inattention.)

The error shouldn't be translated.

A single error shouldn’t, but a countrywide one should, if the matter concerns translating. Otherwise we emasculate the language. Yet every particular person is always free to choose any degree of language exquisiteness for themselves.

It might be possible to use some intensifier, же, instead. The sense would not be impaired.

You guys really make me think about my own language, and the things I say without even thinking...lol