Thread: Word order

Just a simple question. Which one is better?

1) The amount of unused state budget finances rose by 12.2 billion tenge compared with 2003 to over 40 billion tenge.

2) The amount of unused state budget finances rose by 12.2 billion tenge to over 40 billion tenge compared with 2003.

And last but not least, do these sentences make sense at all?

Thanks for your attention.

They make sense alright.

As to the word order, I'd sugest putting "Compared to 2003" in the beginning of the sentence.

Something like "Compared to 2003, the amount of unused state budget funds increased by 12.2 billion tenge to over 40 billion tenge."

You may want to use present perfect instead of the past tense, depending on which moment you are comparing with the 2003 figures. I.e. if you are talking from the perspective of the present time, use present perfect.

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You need puncuation.

Personally, the last bit of the sentence doesn't sound very nice.

I'd say:

Compared with 2003, the amount of unused state funds budget rose by 12.2 billion tenge to over 40 billion.

Thank you, translations.nm.ru and TATY.

state funds budget

TATY, should it be that way?
Can't I say "state budget funds"? Or maybe just "state funds" will do?
I want to translate the phrase "средства государственного бюджета."

State budget funds

the technical term for that is "budget surplus," guys.

Originally Posted by chaika

the technical term for that is "budget surplus," guys.

I agree. Using "budget surplus" sounds MUCH better: The state budget surplus rose to _____, an increase of _____ as compared to 2003.

Originally Posted by Vadim84

Thank you, translations.nm.ru and TATY.

state funds budget

TATY, should it be that way?
Can't I say "state budget funds"? Or maybe just "state funds" will do?
I want to translate the phrase "средства государственного бюджета."

I copied it out wrong

Thanks, guys.

I know the term "budget surplus" = "профицит бюджета".
But the thing is, in the original Russian text it was a bit different from that. Here's the sentence:

Неосвоение средств государственного бюджета, по сравнению с 2003г, возросло на 12,2 млрд. тенге и превысило 40 млрд. тенге.

"Неосвоение" is a very stupid word and, as I see it from the context (I'll spare you from reading the whole paragraph of the boring text ), it's something like "underspend". So now I've translated the sentence as follows:

Compared with 2003, the amount of underspent state budget funds rose by 12.2 billion tenge to over 40 billion.

Originally Posted by chaika

the technical term for that is "budget surplus," guys.

Nope, that's a totally different concept. Budget surplus is the amount by which the income exceeds the expenditures.
Unused funds are the funds that were planned to be used (spent), but were not.

Originally Posted by translations.nm.ru

Originally Posted by chaika

the technical term for that is "budget surplus," guys.

Nope, that's a totally different concept. Budget surplus is the amount by which the income exceeds the expenditures.
Unused funds are the funds that were planned to be used (spent), but were not.

Exactly! In the context of my document there are comparisons with the budget plan.
So, my guess about "неосвоение средств государственного бюджета" (unused or underspent state budget funds) seems to be right. Great