Thread: Catch Me If You Can

The film is quite well-known, so maybe someone remembers if the main hero's mother who's an original French speaks with a non-native accent? Well, I mean the actress, if she speaks with an accent. Her pronunciation confuses me a bit.

I can make a small fragment, actually... And put it on Youtube.

Originally Posted by Оля

The film is quite well-known, so maybe someone remembers if the main hero's mother who's an original French speaker with a non-native accent? Well, I mean the actress, if she speaks with an accent. Her pronunciation confuses me a bit.

I can make a small fragment, actually... And put it on Youtube.

I cannot remember how she sounds in the film, but she is a French actress named Nathalie Baye:
[quote]To stay true to the part of Frank’s mother, Paula Abagnale, Spielberg was determined to cast a French actress. He enlisted the aid of a friend who just happened to be living in Paris at the time, director Brian De Palma. “I sent Brian the script and asked if he would help,” Spielberg says. “He did tests with different actresses, including Nathalie Baye, whom I knew from her work in the Fran

[quote=Ken Watts]

Originally Posted by "Оля":2fu8eegl

The film is quite well-known, so maybe someone remembers if the main hero's mother who's an original French speaker with a non-native accent?

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Ken, I meant:
Maybe someone remembers if the main hero's mother (who's an original French) speaks with an accent.
Is that incorrect?

So the actress is French, so she really must speak with an accent... Thank you.

Originally Posted by Оля

Maybe someone remembers if the main hero's mother (who's an original French) speaks with an accent.
Is that incorrect?

What you wrote in bold print is correct, but the phrase in parentheses is incorrect. If I understand what you mean you could write:

Maybe someone remembers if the main hero's mother, whose original language is French, speaks with an accent.
or
Does anyone remember if the main hero's mother, who's French, speaks with an accent?

whose or who's?
Who's is a contraction of who is or who has: She's the one who's [not whose] coming to dinner next week. Who's [not Whose] got my pen? Whose means "of whom" or "of which" and indicates or asks about belonging: These are the children whose [not who's] father we saw yesterday. Whose [not Who's] coat is that?

Encarta(R) World English Dictionary [North American Edition] (2007) http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/who%2527s.html

So my mistake was the word "original"? I just though it was possible to say "I'm original Russian"; I think I saw that somewhere.. In forums.

Ah! It must be "an" what was a mistake! Erm.. Or not? I'm still confused.

Originally Posted by Оля

So my mistake was the word "original"? I just though it was possible to say "I'm original Russian"; I think I saw that somewhere.. In forums.

Ah! It must be "an" what was a mistake! Erm.. Or not? I'm still confused.

No, your use of "an" before "original" was not a mistake. But "who's an original French" or "who's original French" are phrases that are unclear in meaning, because the listener expects that "French" is being used as an adjective rather than a noun in those constructions. So "who's an original French speaker" or "who's originally French speaking" have clearer meanings. "I'm original Russian" is also unclear for the same reasons.

Ok, I think I understand now. Thank you very much.

"Who's an original Frenchwoman." Does it sound?

I'd say

"Who's originally French"

"Who's a native French speaker"

"Who is originally from France"

"Who's an original Frenchwoman." How does it sound?

No, that sounds wrong too. It makes "original" into a category of Frenchwoman, imlying that there are other kinds of Frenchwomen besides original ones.

But to answer the original question: I've seen the film and yes the character she plays does speak with a French accent.

Yes, I see. Thanks!

Yes, she most certainly does have a French accent.

Here's another line from this movie:
"During that time, I was also the chief resident pediatrician at a Georgia hospital and an assistant attorney general for the state of Louisiana."

I understand the sense of the whole sentence, but I can't get the grammar of the parts in bold. What is actually "chief resident pediatrician"? Is something an adjective here?
Why is it "assistant attorney general" and not "assistant of (the?) attorney general" ?

Originally Posted by Оля

What is actually "chief resident pediatrician"? Is something an adjective here?

И chief, и resident - прилагательные. Resident physician - это врач, который работает в больнице, обычно после интернатуры, с целью углублённой специализации в какой-то области. В данном случае - это врач-педиатр.

Originally Posted by Оля

Why is it "assistant attorney general" and not "assistant of (the?) attorney general" ?

Потому что так говорят по английски. Точно так же, как говорят "deputy director/CEO", а не "deputy of..."

Originally Posted by translations.nm.ru

И chief, и resident - прилагательные. Resident physician - это врач, который работает в больнице, обычно после интернатуры, с целью углублённой специализации в какой-то области. В данном случае - это врач-педиатр.

А chief тогда что такое? То есть, целиком это всё значит "главный врач-педиатр"?

Originally Posted by Оля

Потому что так говорят по-английски. Точно так же, как говорят "deputy director/CEO", а не "deputy of..."

Я знаю, что в английском можно и не говорить "of", но просто я тогда не понимаю, почему не "attorney general assistant"...

Originally Posted by [i

Оля]но просто я тогда не понимаю, почему не "attorney general assistant"...

Потому что "assistant" в данном случае является прилагательным. Мы говорим - "помощник прокурора". Они говорят - "помогающий прокурор". И не только в данном конкретном сочетании. Это обычный шаблон в названиях должностей. Assistant coach - помощник тренера. Assistant cameraman - ассистент оператора, deputy sheriff - помощник шерифа.

А chief тогда что такое? То есть, целиком это всё значит "главный врач-педиатр"?

Это значит "старший resident педиатр". Resident pediatrician - это не просто педиатр, а педиатр, проходящий программу residency. Я в своём первом посте объяснил, что такое resident врач. Раньше они жили прямо при больницах, где работали, потому их и стали называть resident. Сейчас проживание при больнице не везде практикуется, но название сохранилось. Программа residency продолжается несколько лет. Chief resident может означать либо врача на последнем году программы residency, либо того, кто остался работать ещё на какое-то время после завершения программы, и теперь руководит другими resident'ами.

Так. Угу. Понятно, спасибо.

Chief resident может означать либо врача на последнем году программы residency, либо того, кто остался работать ещё на какое-то время после завершения программы, и теперь руководит другими resident'ами

Между прочим, герой фильма не был ни на каком году программы, он стал chief resident pediatrician с полпинка!


Another question!
I also don't understand a club name in the movie: The New Rochelle Rotary Club. What could "Rotary" means here?? I know the translation, but the club name still doesn't make sense to me.

Originally Posted by Оля

Another question!
I also don't understand a club name in the movie: The New Rochelle Rotary Club. What could "Rotary" means here?? I know the translation, but the club name still doesn't make sense to me.

Rotary Club . . .local branch of community service organization: a local club that is a member of an international organization of business and professional people that encourages service to the community
[From the organization's early practice of holding meetings in rotation at members' business premises]

Encarta(R) World English Dictionary [North American Edition] (2007) http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18617 ... _Club.html

The name "Rotary" derived from the early practice of rotating meetings among members' offices.

http://lakeportrotary.org/originhistory.htm

Я не очень поняла. Может кто-нибудь по-русски объяснить?

From the organization's early practice of holding meetings in rotation at members' business premises

Название происходит из-за того, что раньше встречи участников проводились в помещениях их компаний попеременно (in rotation -> rotary)

Originally Posted by Lingvo

Rotary International
"Ротари интернэшнл"
Общественная организация, объединяющая влиятельных представителей деловых кругов. Ставит своей целью укрепление международного мира, сотрудничества и взаимопонимания между странами, пропаганду высоких морально-этических норм в предпринимательской деятельности. Присуждает стипендии "Ротари фаундейшн" [Rotary Foundation Scholarships] с целью содействия желающим учиться или преподавать за рубежом, организует обмены между представителями различных профессий. Основана в 1905 в г. Чикаго, шт. Иллинойс, П. Харрисом [Harris, Paul] . Имеет более 23 тыс. отделений-клубов [ Rotary Club ] в 167 странах, в том числе в России (Москва, Иркутск), а также молодежные клубы "Интеракт" [Interact] (клубы для школьников в 80 странах) и "Ротаракт" [Rotaract] (клубы для молодежи от 18 до 29 лет в 110 странах). Более 1 млн. членов [ Rotarian ] . С 1987 в американские клубы принимаются женщины. Штаб-квартира в г. Эванстоне, шт. Иллинойс. Издает ежемесячник "Ротариан" [Rotarian] , каждый клуб имеет собственный печатный орган. Lions Clubs International , Kiwanis International

Originally Posted by Lingvo

Rotary Club
клуб "Ротари"
Местное (городское или районное) отделение организации "Ротари интернэшнл" [ Rotary International ] . Члены клуба проводят еженедельные собрания, участие в которых является одним из обязательных условий членства (отсюда и название клуба; символ клуба - колесо). Ежегодно через такие клубы осуществляются до 30 тыс. общественно-полезных проектов. Местный клуб формируется из представителей различных профессий

Ой, Тём, спасибо большое.

Another question!
"Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Gentlemen, as of this moment, I am that second mouse."

I don't understand the part in bold.


And another one
(mother)-You're a better dancer than your father, Frankie.
(Frankie)-You hear that, Daddy?
(father)-Like fun.
(mother)-The girls don't know what they're in for.

I have no any idea what the last sentence could mean.