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    Soft sign and Hard sign

    Hi,

    What is the difference when using the soft sign, and the hard sign... I can't seem to notice a difference when I listen to my tapes. Can someone give me some example with english word, between soft and hard.

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    Being.. let's say self taught to be kind, I can't claim to be an expert on pronounciation, but I think the difference between American and British English of some words explains it:

    Tuesday (toosday) American
    Tuesday (tyewsday) British

    believe the T in the American is hard, whereas in British it is soft. This is because we use "u" as a soft vowel, but Americans don't usually.

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    That's a good example, but of course you've got to have heard how Americans and English talk. How about "do" and "dew"? Of course, there are some terrible English-speakers like myself who pronounce "dew" as "do"...

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    I think the difference between 'do' and 'dew' and between 'tuesday' (US) and 'tuesday' (UK) is an 'y' sound, as in "yes". It doesn't really makes the preceding consonant soft, and I am afraid there are no words with such consonants in English.
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    I like this example:

    soft sign (ь)is where you meld the y into the letter before, like in canyon. see?

    hard sign (ъ) is where you separate the y from the letter infront, eg
    объект
    so you get ob-yekt instead of obyekt - there's a really small pause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulhaz
    I like this example:

    soft sign (ь)is where you meld the y into the letter before, like in canyon. see?

    hard sign (ъ) is where you separate the y from the letter infront, eg
    объект
    so you get ob-yekt instead of obyekt - there's a really small pause.
    В' ехал is another one that uses the "hard sign" (by the way, I am not sure which of my keyboard buttons is the one for the hard sign; that's why I couldn't type it in. if someone could tell me which button has the hard sign I'd be so grateful).
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    Svetlana, my advice is to type all the keys starting from Q left to right, and then down. You should see something like this:

    йцукенгшщзхъ
    фывапролджэ
    ячсмитьбю.

    and ё is in the top left corner of the keyboard.

    This way you can type in Russian fairly easily without having keyboard stickers, you can just look at the above to check which row and which location each letter is.
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    hard sign

    въехал

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pravit
    That's a good example, but of course you've got to have heard how Americans and English talk. How about "do" and "dew"? Of course, there are some terrible English-speakers like myself who pronounce "dew" as "do"...
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