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About LinkBacksБеспристрастных людей не бывает.Originally Posted by Lampada
Беспристрастным бывает только закон.
Беспристрастных людей не бывает.
Беспристрастным бывает только закон.
Lugn, bara lugn
Я могу!Я нейтрален ко всему как мамонт растаман
А ведь Ханна хорошо подходит на роль модератора политики.
I think both Alexkrsk and Redfox would be good Russian mods.
They are adult, well-educated people with broad perspectives, albeit different. Neither hold any extreme views as far as I am aware
Alex' English is top notch and Redfox can do it if he has to, I think, lol. Better than my Russian...
Both can keep the Russian speakers in check with authority.
I would be willing to do it, if you thought I was suitable. I would focus on the English posts and only deal with the Russian if somebody was totally and very noticeably out of order. I can keep my personal feelings about individuals to myself. As long as people aren't deliberately trolling, using vulgar or rude language, or lashing out at individuals I'd be fine. I would probably hold back on a few comments that I make as a non-mod.
What happened with GromoZeka? I haven't seen her for ages.
Я слишком нервный.
Why? You and Alex complement each other perfectly.Я слишком нервный.
I mean, it's not like we have aggressive lunatics in this forums. The only problem is that the Ukraine issue got too emotional for some people + we have some kids who troll a bit from time to time.
Other than that, most people are well educated reasonable people who are completely competent to hold a civilised conversation.
I don't know how many spam posts there are.
It's completely unusual what happened now.
Lampada has always been SUPER tolerant with anything from drunk Americans and Russians swearing (and apologising the next day!) to Baltic people with a huge chip on their shoulder ranting about long buried history. People have ranted against Russia, against the USA, against the EU, for and against the USSR, about WW2 and many other topics. It's been quite rare that moderation was needed, and refreshing to hear a broad range of views. I can't begin to summarize how much I've learned in these forums.
Maybe (just speculating) things got more problematic as the East-West split has re-appared a bit in the last couple of years. I joined in 2009 and things were a bit less tense back then.
Редфакса однажды приглашала помогать мне, он отказался. Теперь я бы ему не предложила: я пугаюсь его вспыльчивости и резкости. Алекс - насмешливый и любит задавать провокационные вопросы. Не представляю их холодными наблюдателями. Не судите строго за прямоту.I think both Alexkrsk and Redfox would be good Russian mods.
They are adult, well-educated people with broad perspectives, albeit different. Neither hold any extreme views as far as I am aware
Alex' English is top notch and Redfox can do it if he has to, I think, lol. Better than my Russian...
Both can keep the Russian speakers in check with authority.
I would be willing to do it, if you thought I was suitable. I would focus on the English posts and only deal with the Russian if somebody was totally and very noticeably out of order. I can keep my personal feelings about individuals to myself. As long as people aren't deliberately trolling, using vulgar or rude language, or lashing out at individuals I'd be fine. I would probably hold back on a few comments that I make as a non-mod.
What happened with GromoZeka? I haven't seen her for ages.
Громозека занята реалом и абсолютно не нейтральная.
Last edited by Lampada; July 15th, 2014 at 10:43 AM.
На лицо создание проблемы на пустом месте. При чём здесь личные качества человека? Модератор - не ведущий программы. У модератора, в отличие от ведущего, очень скучная обязанность - читать посты, находить в них несоответствия правилам и по этим же правилам действовать. Единственное необходимое качество модератора - иметь достаточно свободного времени (именно поэтому я не квалифицируюсь в первую очередь).
А искать "беспристрастного журналиста" не имея правил - это хождение по кругу.
Lugn, bara lugn
Нагуглила я твои правила: бюрократия чистой воды. Может, они и нужны для форума с сотнями участников. Видела там твои фотки, фотогеничный ты.
"...Важно, чтобы форум оставался местом, объединяющим людей, для которых интересны русский язык и культура. ..." - MasterАdmin (из переписки)
Ну если ваша цель - оставить этот форум клубом для пятерых, то конечно. Только зачем тогда использовать слова типа "развитие"?
Lugn, bara lugn
Никак, видимо, не получается без перехода на личности
Lugn, bara lugn
Alex makes a good point. Let's see how this goes.
If I find I cannot combine moderating with my views, then I'll step down, or Lampada will have to sack me!
Another thing I could do, is to have an alternative account.
Either way, I have actually only been "censored" twice or maybe three times.
Even as a normal poster, I usually express myself diplomatically enough that people can see that it's not personal or fanatical, and it's an earnestly held opinion, based on facts that they can check themselves.
The times I was moderated, I was aware that I was overstepping the mark each time, but did it anyway.
Another thing; I always respect people who hold a different view than me, as long as they present their viewpoint in a decent, coherent manner, remain polite and have some facts to support their views. I.e. Redfox and I are not on the same part of the political spectrum, Nulle (a Baltic user who ranted a lot against Russia, but he had historical support for what he was saying), uHoxeplode, who is currently a big Putin fan. He tries to research what he writes to the best of his ability. it-Ogo with the exception of when he got really pissed off towards the end of his career here. But who can blame him for taking things very personally? It was happening right at his doorstep, and he eventually made up his mind as to where his allegiances lied. Definitely his prerogative.T
And in contrast, there are some people who have the same views as me, who I think are insensitive or undiplomatic at times. I won't name any names. I often "like" their posts, as long as they are civil.
What i would do in that case I would mark my text to let ppl know when i speak as a moderator and when as a poster. (color or smthn). But that's just my HO.
I'd not advise doing that.
Lugn, bara lugn
Два эккаунта никак нельзя. Алекс, наш первый Админ, высказывался категорически против этого. Был прецедент.
эккаунта
Lugn, bara lugn
Yes, I realised that as I was writing. I think it's a universal rule in forums actually. No worries, I won't do it.
I will just have to be balanced.
As for Ukraine: I have formed an opinion about it, but I am aware I don't have all the facts, and that I am limited by my bad Russian.
And I am not personally affected AT ALL, so while I think the situation is very saddening I can remain objective.
I have nothing against Ukraine in the EU or as an EU partner, alternatively I don't care if it allies itself closely with Russia at the expense of the EU. Which country Crimea belongs to is totally unimportant for me, and the situation in Donbass is far too complex for me to have a very strong view, even though I am leaning in one particular direction. The "Novorossiya" concept does not awake any feelings in me, since I am not Russian. However the loss of lives, refugee situation and destruction of buildings is very, very saddening and upsetting regardless of views, and I am really, really saddened by it.
Allright, I've got to take care of some other stuff now, laters all!
Ханна, высказываться сможешь, только, может быть, не так радикально и не так крайне односторонне. Я думаю, что при желании можно смотреть на факты с разных сторон. Мне так кажется.
Это интересно. Писать грязь и постоянно про половину мира и стать модератором.
Feel free to point out anything that I have said, that is NOT correct. I base my views on facts. The truth makes you feel uncomfortable?
I'm sure there'd be no complaints from you if the same comments were against Putin, about the negatives of the USSR or the greatness of the new Kiev regime, right?
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What's so terrible, about offering an alternative worldview? Or should there be an allegiance test / PC conformity test before anybody joins here?
I guess I don't understand the difference between a view here and facts. If you have facts, why do you need a view? Your posts don't make me uncomfortable. But I don't think your posts are 100% about facts and without opinions and generalizations.
I didn't bring up Putin, USSR, or anything about government of Ukraine. I don't believe I've ever posted about these topics.
You can offer whatever view of the world you'd like. In my opinion, the success of this site depends on having people from all over participate. As I see it, the constant drivel of dirt against certain regions of the world is now officially sanctioned on this site. I honestly dont know why now someone would choose this site to learn Russian, when his/her country is probably on the "anti" list of this forum.
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