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    Picture of my Russian Writing

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    упс! я сказал "я вижу", я хотел сказать "я живу".

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    много ошибот граматических, даже не хочется разбирать. cursive is fine.

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    Красивый почерк, к сожалению никогда не выучила как читать такие!
    "Особенно упорно надо заниматься тем, кто ничего не знает." - Като Ломб

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valda View Post
    Красивый почерк, к сожалению никогда не выучила как читать такие!
    same with my Hebrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXHoax View Post
    упс! я сказал "я вижу", я хотел сказать "я живу".
    by the way, d u mean WA state? If so, you want to say Я живу в штате Вашингтон. Otherwise, я живу в городе Вашингтон.

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    Your Cyrillic handwriting is very good, but I would recommend one important change: the letters л, м, and я should ALWAYS begin with a small "hook" -- i.e., a little point or upward "bump" in the pen-stroke. Putting in this little hook/point/bump is especially important when one of these letters is in the middle of a word and is joined to the letter that comes before it. They're not just for decoration; they make it easier to distinguish the letters. (A cursive л without a "hook" can look too much like a cursive г, for example.)

    Here's an example that I found on the Internet -- it's actually a Russian example of a "pangram", i.e., a sentence that uses every letter of the alphabet. (Which makes it a good practice exercise to learn touch-typing on a Cyrillic keyboard, too.)



    Note that in the words мягких (line 2) and булок (line 3), you can clearly see the "hooks" I'm talking about.

    P.S. If you have trouble viewing the image, it says: Съешь же ещё этих мягких французких булок да выпей чаю!

    Which you can translate as "Eat up some more of these soft French loaves 'n' drink some tea!"
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    Capital T is incorrect,

    1845-13467033-hand_font_russ.jpg

    some longer words lack some strokes (грамматика, for example).

    Personally I am waiting with impatience when hand writing is prohibited. I get a stress every time I have to take a pen.
    "Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."

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    Good work xXHoax!
    @ McGee. Those hooks just solved my biggest issue with learning to use script. It was a nightmare dealing with г, и, л, м, and ш in single words. I'm definitely gonna start using those hooks.
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    Пожалуйста, исправьте мои ошибки. Спасибо.

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    by the way, you don't have to connect the letters, it's possible to use them separately if it's easier (i.e. the connection lines between the letters are not a must, they just happen to be there as a natural way of writing by natives and with them the writing looks natural).
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    Thanks for that information, Alexsms. I already found 2 lower-case letters that I probably won't connect - у and д. They look like the english y and g and I never connect those when I write in english script.
    I got determined to learn Russian script when I noticed that in text messages on Russian holiday cards, sometimes letters looked like script - the г, и, and т.
    I also noticed on the 50 let Pobedy icebreaker, the л looks like the script л and the д is pointed at the top.
    But it got really strange when I was trying to read Russian commemorative coins. That's when I learned about the old Church Slavonic alphabet. Now I can read the coins too.
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    Пожалуйста, исправьте мои ошибки. Спасибо.

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    Russian Writing (Mouse over a letter to see an animation of how it is written.)


    http://nekin.info/pro/text-primo/primo-demo-black.pdf




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    Quote Originally Posted by UhOhXplode View Post
    Good work xXHoax!
    @ McGee. Those hooks just solved my biggest issue with learning to use script. It was a nightmare dealing with г, и, л, м, and ш in single words. I'm definitely gonna start using those hooks.
    In my first-year college Russian class, we were taught that the "hooks" are absolutely mandatory. True, when native Russians are writing cursive in a quick-and-sloppy way, the hooks can be difficult to see, but they are not entirely omitted -- at the very least, there's a bit of an upward wiggle in the pen stroke.

    On the other hand, it's NOT mandatory -- but many people would recommend it -- to put a horizontal line over the m (i.e., the cursive т) and also under the cursive ш and щ. And some people put a very short horizontal stroke through the middle of the cursive ж, but as far as I know, this is less common.

    Also, one other non-mandatory suggestion for xXHoax and other learners: As a beginner, try to get in the habit of marking the stressed vowels. Yes, native Russians don't use these accent marks except in the rarest cases (e.g., with newly borrowed foreign words), but it will help you learn pronunciation of words as well as sentence intonation when you're just starting out. For example, here's that pangram sentence with the stressed vowels underlined:

    Съешь же ещё этих мягких французких булок да выпей чаю!

    Notice that when the one-syllable word да means "yes", it is always stressed -- when it's unstressed, the meaning is "and" or "but" or sometimes "let it be so" (Да будет свет, "Let there be light!"). On the other hand, the one-syllable emphatic particle же is NEVER stressed, as far as I know, while one-syllable pronoun forms such as я/мне, ты, он/им, ей, мыас/нам, выас/вам, тот/та, etc., are ALWAYS stressed.

    (The point is that it's a good idea for beginners to mark stress in one-syllable words, too, although many dictionaries only use stress marks with words of more than one syllable.)

    P.S. Here's an image that shows the horizontal line over the lower-case т and under the lower-case ш (again, these are OPTIONAL, but recommended for easier reading) and also including the two variants for lower-case д (you can write it either as "g" or "a backwards 6").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Russian Writing[SIZE=2] [SIZE=3]([COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times New Roman]Mouse over a letter to see an animation of how it is written.)
    I greatly recommend this page because the animations show you the ideal order to make the pen strokes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    I've never heard this one before, but the lyrics were surprisingly suggestive (for an old folk song, I mean!), and reminded me just a little bit of the Everly Brothers ditty "Wake Up, Little Susie"! ("Whatta we gonna tell your mama? / Whatta we gonna tell your pa? / Whatta we gonna tell our friends when they say 'Ooh-la-la'?")


    Anyway, beginners won't recognize some of the words, so here's a transcription and my translation:

    Русская народная песня "Шумел камыш"
    Russian folk song "The cattails/water-reeds were rustling (lit. "making noise")"
    Исполняет Надежда Кадышева
    Performed by Nadezhda Kadysheva


    Шумел камыш, The cattails were rustling
    Деревья гнулись The trees were bending over
    А ночка тёмная была And the night was dark.

    Одна возлюбленная пара A certain couple in love
    Всю ночь [Spent] the whole night
    Гуляла до утра Strolling until morning.

    А поутру они проснулись And in the morning they woke up
    Кругом помятая трава Around [them in a circle], the grass was disheveled/crushed
    Там не одна трава помята And not only the grass there was disheveled
    Помята девячья краса The damsel's beauty was disheveled, [too].
    (NB: Video seems to have a typo -- девячья should be "девичья", if I'm not mistaken!!!)

    Иду домой, а дома спросят: I'm going home [she said] and at home they'll ask:
    "Где ночь гуляла, с кем была?" "Where were you strolling [all] night, who were you with?"

    А я скажу: "В саду гуляла, And I'll say: "I was strolling in the garden,
    Домой тропинки не нашла." "And couldn't find the path home."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post


    А поутру они проснулись And in the morning they woke up
    Кругом помятая трава Around [them in a circle], the grass was disheveled/crushed
    Там не одна трава помята And not only the grass there was disheveled
    Помята девячья краса The damsel's beauty was disheveled, [too].
    (NB: Video seems to have a typo -- девячья should be "девичья", if I'm not mistaken!!!)
    Variation of a theme

    Знает только ночь глубокая,
    Как поладили они.
    Распрямись ты, рожь высокая,
    Тайну свято сохрани!

    Only the deep night knows,
    What they agreed upon.
    Straighten up now, oh tall rye,
    And keep their secret scrupulously!
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