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    Question How is Boukreev pronounced?

    someone said "boo kray ev"

    someone else said "boo kreev"

    someone else said "boo ke reev".

    I logged on to yahoo answers and someone there said "Book-r-YE-yev".

    How do you say an r and a y at the same time?

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    Write his name in Russian. Probably he is pronounced /bu'krʲejif/ or /bu'krʲeif/.

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    Book-r-YE-yev - is fine. That's how it is pronounced in Russian. The correct spelling I think should be Bukreev or Bukreyev (according to transliteration rules), because Putin is spelled Putin , not Poutin or Pootin.

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    Book-r-YE-yev - is fine. That's how it is pronounced in Russian.
    Really? That's probably an unknown dialect.

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    As far as I understand, Boukreev = Букреев , so it's Book-r-YE-yev (to me, as as speaker of Russian, the pronunciation and the stress are correct, and I see no other way a Russian could pronounce it).

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    As far as I understand, Boukreev = Букреев , so it's Book-r-YE-yev (to me, as as speaker of Russian, the pronunciation and the stress are correct, and I see no other way a Russian could pronounce it).
    I see. /bu'krʲejif/ or /bu'krʲeif/.
    For example I don't pronounce voiced consonants at the end of words. Also I reduce unstressed vowels. krye is not convenient to pronounce either.

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    Book-re-yif
    or
    Book-re-if

    Middle syllable is stressed.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    The first vowel is pronounced as u in "put".

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    Marcus, I don't think you are pronouncing English "put" correctly. The first vowel in букреев is a long u-sound, as in English words boot (not book), or suit or soon. "put" has a short vowel, as in soot or look. don't you just love English spelling??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsms
    Book-r-YE-yev - is fine. That's how it is pronounced in Russian. The correct spelling I think should be Bukreev or Bukreyev (according to transliteration rules), because Putin is spelled Putin , not Poutin or Pootin.
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    Really? That's probably an unknown dialect.
    "Book-r-YE-yev" here you wrote "ye" separately of the preceding "r" that implies separate pronunciation, which in turn comes to "ye" been pronounced as in "yes" with "i the short" consonant just after "r". While it should be pronounced like "re" (ре) not "r-ye" (рье).

    If Marcus were not so sarcastic it would be of more help to the forum users to understand the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    I see. /bu'krʲejif/ or /bu'krʲeif/.
    For example I don't pronounce voiced consonants at the end of words. Also I reduce unstressed vowels. krye is not convenient to pronounce either.
    Oh, Marcus, sorry, you are right here. It must be [f] at the end. We, Russians, just don't think about it (it's just ingrained in our brain) and often forget it: ALL consonants MUST be VOICELESS at the end, that's a phonetic rule (we just do it automatically since we have been taught to speak). Definitely, it is [f].

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaika View Post
    Marcus, I don't think you are pronouncing English "put" correctly. The first vowel in букреев is a long u-sound, as in English words boot (not book), or suit or soon. "put" has a short vowel, as in soot or look. don't you just love English spelling??!!
    chaika,
    long vowels don't exist in the Russian language, and so do short vowels. All vowels in Russian have neutral length. I'd say Russian [у] as in утро is longer than [u] as in put, but shorter than oo [u:] as in boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsms View Post
    chaika,
    long vowels don't exist in the Russian language, and so do short vowels. All vowels in Russian have neutral length. I'd say Russian [у] as in утро is longer than [u] as in put, but shorter than oo [u:] as in boot.
    Stressed vowels are always longer than unstressed. Prestressed is longer than other unstressed. The English sound [u:] can be probably found after soft consonants in stressed syllables. Because Russian у is a more back sound.

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    Forgetting about length, the u-sound in букреев is closer to the u-sound in BOOT than the u-sound in BOOK.
    I don't pronounce the u-sound in Russian утро any different than the u-sound in English boot. I guess that is just a thing that adds to my accent. =:^)

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    thanks.

    I t hink it's easier to pronounce the y sound after a *rolled* r.

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    Oh, since I don't have sound, I cant' use the audio features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolUSA44 View Post
    thanks.

    I t hink it's easier to pronounce the y sound after a *rolled* r.

    Carol
    There is no "y" sound in this word. In Russian a palatalized r (soft) is pronounced here. In English one can pronounce a usual r. I have already written the exact pronunciation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    There is no "y" sound in this word. In Russian a palatalized r (soft) is pronounced here. In English one can pronounce a usual r. I have already written the exact pronunciation.
    thanks. I meant a "y" sound like in "yes". Not like a long "i".

    In Russian, the r is not rolled then?

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    also, I am curious. In Yahoo Answers, I also noticed that they told me "Book-r-YE-yev-v". Is the "v" very stressed or dragged out?

    Thanks.
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