Thread: Разные мысли и соображения вокруг событий в Украине

Много раз смотрела тв передачу "Intervention" Watch Intervention Full Episodes & Videos Online - A&E
и насмотрелась на самых различных тяжело больных наркоманов.

Просто интересно, на какой наркотик можно так быстро подсесть и при этом не заметить наркотического эффекта? Ерунда какая-то.

Originally Posted by dtrq

Do people still repost this bullshit?

Originally Posted by Lampada

This is awful.

Why do I feel like I just stepped into a conspiracy theory?

Originally Posted by Paul G.

It already happens. As you maybe know, D. Firtash arrested today at the instance of FBI (almighty FBI couldn't catch him for 8 years, and ooops! what a surprise, this elusive gangster-billionaire was at last arrested; of course, it has nothing to do with Ukrainian events). He's the third largest "oligarch." Also, sons of Yanukovich were freezed out. I don't consider Yanukovich as a good president. He has squandered all. But he was just a protege of some oligarchic forces. So if ordinary people think that they made a revolution, I have to disappoint them: it's not a revolution, it's a coup organized by the armed squads (mainly Nazi) for the interests of third party. If it were a revolution, it had to change political and economical course. But nothing happened and something like that is not even declared. All the "oligarchs" are on their places. One of them even became a mayor, although (just think about that!) he's a citizen of Israel. How is it possible if so-called "revolution" was "against corruption"? I can put tens of such awkward questions. All of these questions just confirm that ordinary people were cheated again. And it looks like this process will never stop.

I didn't know that Firtash was arrested. I didn't even know that the FBI was looking for him so I google it and found this.
Austria arrests Ukraine oligarch Dmitry Firtash at US request - FT.com

It says he was orgainizing a Ukraine festival in London last year. And they didn't try to arrest him there? That's very suspicious. The arrest is an Obvious move to put pressure on Putin.

Originally Posted by dtrq

There's no proof, just statistics about hospitalization (without any details), though, according to author, somehow it proves something.
The every aspect of the story is too ridiculous for anyone who have slightest idea about drugs and medicine: doctors diagnose drug addiction to unknown drug, which causes harsh withdrawal after few days of use, no one got sample? ROFL

I still think it's strange that so many people would be in the hospital but I've never been to a huge demonstration so I don't know how harsh it can be on peoples' health. But it's a good point that no one even got a sample.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Много раз смотрела тв передачу "Intervention" Watch Intervention Full Episodes & Videos Online - A&E
и насмотрелась на самых различных тяжело больных наркоманов.

Просто интересно, на какой наркотик можно так быстро подсесть и при этом не заметить наркотического эффекта? Ерунда какая-то.

That's what I'm thinking now. I've never taken any drugs so I don't know how that feels but I think I would know if I did. Also, if I felt that different then I know I would leave and I wouldn't come back till somebody identified the drug I accidentally took. It's normal to get very concerned when something feels wrong.
About the "addiction" thing, I don't know how long people have to take drugs to get addicted.

My conclusion is that the drug theory still has holes in it and I still haven't seen anything that proves there were snipers. My conclusion could change but only if I see conclusive evidence.

Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

My conclusion is that the drug theory still has holes in it and I still haven't seen anything that proves there were snipers. My conclusion could change but only if I see conclusive evidence.

Both "theories" (as you called them) are proved by the facts. The doctors noted that a lot of the patients (injured on the "maidan") have weird reactions which looked like they were on drugs or at least felt the consequences of that. I don't think that everybody there used drugs. But I have a reason to believe that there were three groups of people who used it:
a) The real drug addicts who had been using drugs long before the protest. These people are very cheap and can do anything for little money or even for a drug dose. I guess there were a lot of them, because they are asocial and don't appreciate life. Ideal people for protests. Therefore, we have to see lots of evidences. And we have it.
b) Those protesters who got some light drugs with food or drinks, just for supporting their spirit in an energetic (or even agressive) state. I don't think these drugs could cause serious consequences. I guess it's something like an intense antidepressant. You feel like an inspired revolutionist, but in fact it's just some meds.
c) Special drugs, only for the armed groups of the protesters. I assume, this type of drugs is something like the preparations for the US special forces. Just for instant effect (no pain etc). I'm not 100% sure, though.

Originally Posted by Paul G.

Both "theories" (as you called them) are proved by the facts. The doctors noted that a lot of the patients (injured on the "maidan") have weird reactions which looked like they were on drugs or at least felt the consequences of that. I don't think that everybody there used drugs. But I have a reason to believe that there were three groups of people who used it:
a) The real drug addicts who had been using drugs long before the protest. These people are very cheap and can do anything for little money or even for a drug dose. I guess there were a lot of them, because they are asocial and don't appreciate life. Ideal people for protests. Therefore, we have to see lots of evidences. And we have it.
b) Those protesters who got some light drugs with food or drinks, just for supporting their spirit in an energetic (or even agressive) state. I don't think these drugs could cause serious consequences. I guess it's something like an intense antidepressant. You feel like an inspired revolutionist, but in fact it's just some meds.
c) Special drugs, only for the armed groups of the protesters. I assume, this type of drugs is something like the preparations for the US special forces. Just for instant effect (no pain etc). I'm not 100% sure, though.

Thanks for letting me know. Those links that SergeMak posted did mention a lot of drug-related issues in the hospital. If you know about any more articles on the drug issue, please post them. Either language is fine. I can read a Russian article as fast as I read an English one.