Thread: Western Propaganda aka клюква lol

=) Дер гроссер кениг дас шведишен кенигсрейх зандмих! Зейнен трейен динер, царр и велики князе Иван Василович Усарусса!!!

ROFL! I was just watching that movie again (for the millionth time) a few days ago!

On a serious note -- various people have made the claim that Soviet movies didn't treat Americans as "evil stereotypes". But how many Soviet movies portrayed Americans at all?

The only example I can remember watching is 1982's Случай в квадрате 36-80 ("Incident at Map Coordinates 36-80"), which deals with an emergency effort by the Soviet ВМФ ("Navy") to assist a crippled US Navy submarine -- but the sub also has two nuclear missiles that have accidentally been activated to strike Soviet cities, and time is running out until the missiles automatically launch. (The theme of human error and technological failure leading to the possibility of an unintentional nuclear strike against the USSR resembles the 1964 American drama Fail-Safe, based on a novel that also partly inspired Kubrick's satire Dr. Strangelove.)

Hanna and Deborski should take note that Случай в квадрате 36-80 is definitely "propagandistic" insofar as it portrays US military policy and American ideology as highly aggressive.

But at the same time, the American personnel on the sub are treated respectfully as professional military men in a difficult situation, not as monstrous stereotypes. (The cause of the crisis is an American sailor who goes crazy after accidental exposure to radiation -- as opposed to Kubrick's film, where the US military guys are nearly all jingoists and idiots, and the Soviet ambassador is almost as bad, with the British officer as the only voice of sanity.)

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

But at the same time, the American personnel on the sub are treated respectfully as professional military men in a difficult situation, not as monstrous stereotypes. (The cause of the crisis is an American sailor who goes crazy after accidental exposure to radiation -- as opposed to Kubrick's film, where the US military guys are nearly all jingoists and idiots, and the Soviet ambassador is almost as bad, with the British officer as the only voice of sanity.)

You know, Kubrick with his 'Full metal jacket' made bigger propagandistic effect on me than the Incident in the square 36-80.