Thread: Turkey strikes targets in Syria in retaliation for shelling deaths

Originally Posted by Crocodile

I agree to some extent. However, the problem with those kind of claims is that you can make that claim the other way around. For example: Syrian government wants to get rid of the insurgents, so it provokes Turkey thus putting the insurgents into the political situation in which they collaborate with the enemy. And that can significantly hit the motivation of the insurgents as well as the civilians who help them maybe causing their forces to split and thus weaken. "All Syrians, unite to fight the common enemy - Turkey!! They want our land and they want to kill our people and rape our women!! If you are a patriot, join the Army and fight Turkey with us!" That will not result with the war with Turkey (the UN Security Council will not let that happen), but it might effectively end the insurgence and make Assad be the leader of the nation again.

It is exactly because that logic (i.e. "who benefits") can go any way you want, it is LOVED by propaganda (and is strictly avoided by me outside of the applicability context). So, being the smart and the honest guy as you are, I think you would appreciate that and do the same thing.

То, что повстанцы получают всестороннюю помощь от Турции, всем в Сирии очевидно.

Originally Posted by Marcus

То, что повстанцы получают всестороннюю помощь от Турции, всем в Сирии очевидно.

And, again the same "propaganda magic" can be applied the other way around: the fact that Assad's regime is being supported by Iran is obvious to anyone in Syria.

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You see? If you talk propaganda with me, I can easily talk propaganda back, because propaganda exists for each and every situation for any side you like. There's nothing to think about. I'm used to share my own thoughts (be them maybe 100% wrong), but when I ask others and they get back to me with propaganda I feel like . If I need to read propaganda I know where to find it. I'm curious to know what do you think of that?