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    RT is the most accurate "reporting".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    Спасибо за комплимент.
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    Меня Эрик спрашивал о моей национальности и вы почему-то не вмешались.

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    Переводика -
    Здесь, по-моему, дело написано.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    Переводика -
    Здесь, по-моему, дело написано.
    Ну, допустим. Но, тогда напрашивается простой вопрос: на каких основаниях Вы считаете нынешнюю власть законной? А если законная власть - это КПРФ, а ЕР - незконный узурпатор, пытающийся силой свергнуть законную власть? А раз так, тогда именно ЕР - зачинщик беспорядков, поджигатель гражданской войны и все остальные эпитеты, на которые не скупится цитируемая Вами статья. Кто решает какая власть законная, а какая - нет?

    Теперь, ещё момент. Ну, допустим на улицы Москвы народ выгнали деньги Нью-Йорка. По этой же логике, на улицах Нью-Йорка народ протестует на деньги Москвы. Проделайте ту же простую работу, что и автор статьи и Вы в этом убедитесь. Протесты на Wall Street и подобные им есть просто попытка сместить ультралиберальную долларовую Систему на нефтеденьги Кремля. Репетиция провалена, спектакль начинается. Такое же точно дело.

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    на каких основаниях Вы считаете нынешнюю власть законной?
    На тех основаниях, что она есть.

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    I didn't know the CIA, NATO, Israel (Jews in general but mostly Zionists), Globalists, NGOs, The West, Western Media, Western Capitalists/Corporations, MTV, the internet, the USA as a whole and I personally agitated the populace and financed the protests.
    That's not far from true.The problem is that the stability is under threat. The USA have actually promised "Arab Spring" in Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    На тех основаниях, что она есть.
    Я ожидал более развёрнутого ответа.
    В каком смысле есть? Типа корона ЕР спустилась с небес, а её руководитель - великий князь, помазанник рукой Патриарха Московского и Всея Руси в Успенском соборе?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    That's not far from true.The problem is that the stability is under threat. The USA have actually promised "Arab Spring" in Russia.
    Yes, and Russia promised the "Arab Spring" on the Wall Street.

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    Yes, and Russia promised the "Arab Spring" on the Wall Street
    Proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    Proof?
    Ah, the proof goes as usual:

    1. First, the 'official movement page' Occupy Wall Street | NYC Protest for World Revolution proclaims the following:

    We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic
    2. Who would benefit from the Wall Street movement? The capitalists? No. The Americans? No - should the movement succeed and any drastic changes in the world bank system administration occur, the USD as well as all the US government bonds and lost of other securities would fall causing some catastrophic events in the world order. The only forces who could benefit from that situation are the resources-exporting countries. Among the major ones - the Russian Federation.

    3. Along with RF there are other resource-exporting countries, but the major players have already been brought down by the Arab Spring. The Russian Federation is the last chance for the resource-exporting world to gain dominance.

    4. The conclusion: Russia clearly benefits from the Wall Street movement.

    5. The scenario of the Arab Springs requires some Internet-distributed initiatives supported by some of the mass-media. That requires money. Who would give money to support the anti-banking movement? Someone within the US? Unlikely, as all the major players in the US would lose and/or not benefit, so they would be reluctant to spend money.

    6. To sum it up, all the money to support the WS movement came from the oil-rubles and everything was orchestrated by Kremlin.

    QED.

    PS. A proof not a bit worse than that produced by the so-called 'patriotic forces' in Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    Я ожидал более развёрнутого ответа.
    В каком смысле есть? Типа корона ЕР спустилась с небес, а её руководитель - великий князь, помазанник рукой Патриарха Московского и Всея Руси в Успенском соборе?
    Do you remember that Soviet joke about "the comrade wolf knowing whom to eat"? It's more like that. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Do you remember that Soviet joke about "the comrade wolf knowing whom to eat"? It's more like that. =)
    The saying has it something close to: "The Old Chinese saying is: there's always an old Chinese saying about anything."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    The saying has it something close to: "The Old Chinese saying is: there's always an old Chinese saying about anything."
    Well, I basically meant there are people ready to serve to whatever authorities just because the latter are in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Well, I basically meant there are people ready to serve to whatever authorities just because the latter are in power.
    It's not quite so. It's just some people are satisfied the way things going on and they don't want to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romik View Post
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    Меня Эрик спрашивал о моей национальности и вы почему-то не вмешались.
    Значит, просто пропустила. Скажи, где - я вмешаюсь.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortheether View Post
    Anyone participate or see anything?


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    No, I was sitting on a chair still waiting for CIA officers to come and give me some money. But none of those cappie misers came.
    You'd probably have to start a group! Find a catchy name for the group, try to get interviewed on one of the big US based news channels. Expose some real or made-up scandal in the military or something about Russian foreign policy. Tell everyone who wants to listen that Russia is an evil dictatorship and that you have inside info about Putins evil plans... Then spread the rumour that you are persecuted and harassed by the authorities. (I suppose that might almost be true at this point...) When you've done all this, just google grants for human rights activists (or democracy activists) in Russia, start applying and watch the money roll in. Not long after this, the CIA will probably come knocking on your door!

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