Quote Originally Posted by 14Russian View Post
But, how are they doing the referendum? TEN DAYS to decide whether you are changing the entire country?!? The troops have guns and controlling who goes where or what people do. The Crimean authorties are airing Russian TV channels and scrutinizing whatever Ukrainian ones they allow. This is fair, right?!? Also, they have that stupid billboard of propaganda, choosing a 'Nazi' side or Russia. The entire thing is a sham.

There's no nazis. The 'far Right' in Ukraine has been bought by the American and Israeli Zionists. They were probably given money and promises of key Government positions with nice cozy incentives. These traitors don't give a **** about Ukraine or their fellow citizens. But, the lying Russian government portray them as Nazis so they can pick up their own slice before the pro-US/EU Elites set up shop there.

If a foreigner like myself can figure it out, how come Ukrainians can't? What is wrong with them? I would rather not be controlled but be poor and in charge of my own independence than sell out. And the BS in the other thread is just disgraceful. I've never seen this forum have so many liars and BS one after the other. I knew there were a lot of Putinoids here but it's ridiculous now. Their brains don't work right. Just because you criticize the Russian strategy, it doesn't mean you're 'pro-West.' But, their brains don't function properly.
I agree with Hanna's response to your post, in post #38. This is a logical discussion of the situation in Ukraine - Why all the drama?

About your 1st paragraph: Everything that's been happening in Ukraine has been fast. The "peaceful" demonstrators in Kiev didn't waste any time taking Independence Square. They even sent a lot of police to the hospitals - how fair was that? Then they staged a violent coup and took over the government. So now I have to ask: How would the US government respond if that happened in Washington DC? Here's a clue:
Woman slain after car chase from White House to Capitol

No. Angry, unarmed protestors don't get a warm reception in Washington DC. And now, the US media:
We have to use a satellite dish to pick up RT and the rest of the media is very anti-Russian. So, why wouldn't Crimea use the same tactics? - It's the American way. Btw, media control is also used heavily during US elections. I rarely see anything but Democrat or Republican ads. Oh, and don't forget, Democrats are Libtards and Republicans are Conservitards or Nazis. I've even seen people bashing campaign signs in other peoples yards.
So no, I don't see anything unusual about the non-Russian side being called Nazis. Again, it's the American way.

Imo, the troops in Crimea are using their guns to prevent lawlessness. I don't believe that has anything to do with the referendum. I mean, if I went to Crimea, I'd bring a gun to protect myself. People aren't very safe right now in Ukraine.

About your 2nd paragraph: I think it's obvious that NATO is trying to expand into Ukraine. And don't forget, the leaders in the interim government are all very wealthy - 2 are billionaires.
Politicians are almost always wealthy - especially in the US. Anyway, I don't understand the financial side of this. I only know that dad was working with a Hungarian broker when the USSR dissolved so he probably knows more about that issue.

About your 3rd paragraph: How can you figure it out? I think we can make educated guesses but there's too much people don't know. Since the interim Ukrainian leaders were already wealthy then they wouldn't be poor - unless they made bad investments.
Sorry, but I don't understand anything you posted after the first 3 sentences so I can't comment on the rest of the paragraph.

But I do know that America and the EU wouldn't suffer if all of Ukraine was annexed to Russia. I also know that President Putin and the Russian Parliament have very strong ties and interests in Ukraine. And I know that there is a strong cultural split in Ukraine.
Imo, Ukraine can only have peace when it becomes 2 countries - East and West Ukraine.
There's more I want to discuss but it's late and Current Events isn't the only thing I have to study tonight - I wish it was.