Thread: Ron Paul! Save the Constitution of Rights!

Hello,

I came back here for the urgent matter of personal liberty. Ron Paul must be elected President.

The world needs to pay attention to the biggest threat of this century. Soft Fascism in the US. The media censors Ron Paul because of his ideas.

MLK Awesome vid
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/pol ... gs_in.html

Music by Aimee Allen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0ONcIJ2E6c

Rap Song: Knights of Liberty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlPjsGFcXlg

Ron Paul the Underdog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE

Ron Paul is the only supports real mutual respect with Russia!!!!
http://www.russiatoday.ru/guests/video/726
Word of Mouth Please!

Russian press more free than US media?
http://www.kommersant.com/p-11806/r_527 ... _election/

Big Long Article in English with in depth details of Ron Paul ideology
http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id447.html

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Ron Paul needs your help. The world needs your help. Do your research on the Internet.

Mordan, citizen of the world.

Originally Posted by Mordan

Hello,

I came back here for the urgent matter of personal liberty. Ron Paul must be elected President.

The world needs to pay attention to the biggest threat of this century. Soft Fascism in the US. The media censors Ron Paul because of his ideas.

MLK Awesome vid
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/pol ... gs_in.html

Music by Aimee Allen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0ONcIJ2E6c

Rap Song: Knights of Liberty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlPjsGFcXlg

Ron Paul the Underdog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE

Ron Paul is the only supports real mutual respect with Russia!!!!
http://www.russiatoday.ru/guests/video/726
Word of Mouth Please!

Russian press more free than US media?
http://www.kommersant.com/p-11806/r_527 ... _election/

Big Long Article in English with in depth details of Ron Paul ideology
http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id447.html

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Ron Paul needs your help. The world needs your help. Do your research on the Internet.

Mordan, citizen of the world.

The media censors anyone that doesn't have their ideas or enough money to keep themselves in the open... it's not just Ron Paul....

The reason that the media doesn't like Ron is because, if he were elected, most of the things that they write about would gradually disappear. There would be no war, no peace marches, no military presence somewhere, no stock market upheaval, no mortgage crisis, no collapsing dollar, no illegal intelligence agency spying, no tax debates, no interest rate drops, no deficit, no national debt, no job loss, no North American Union, no Mideast conflict, no lobbyist corruption, no energy crisis, no theft of social security funds, no nation building, no payments to dictators, no illegal aliens, and not enough left of the federal government to make a story with.

it sickens me

Originally Posted by Mordan

The reason that the media doesn't like Ron is because, if he were elected, most of the things that they write about would gradually disappear. There would be no war, no peace marches, no military presence somewhere, no stock market upheaval, no mortgage crisis, no collapsing dollar, no illegal intelligence agency spying, no tax debates, no interest rate drops, no deficit, no national debt, no job loss, no North American Union, no Mideast conflict, no lobbyist corruption, no energy crisis, no theft of social security funds, no nation building, no payments to dictators, no illegal aliens, and not enough left of the federal government to make a story with.

it sickens me

You wish too much.

Originally Posted by Mordan

The reason that the media doesn't like Ron is because, if he were elected, most of the things that they write about would gradually disappear. There would be no war, no peace marches, no military presence somewhere, no stock market upheaval, no mortgage crisis, no collapsing dollar, no illegal intelligence agency spying, no tax debates, no interest rate drops, no deficit, no national debt, no job loss, no North American Union, no Mideast conflict, no lobbyist corruption, no energy crisis, no theft of social security funds, no nation building, no payments to dictators, no illegal aliens, and not enough left of the federal government to make a story with.

it sickens me

I'm sorry to say it but.... all of that can't be fixed with just 1 guy.... it takes time and many people cooperating... your expectations are too high...

Originally Posted by strawberryfynch

I'm sorry to say it but.... all of that can't be fixed with just 1 guy.... it takes time and many people cooperating... your expectations are too high...

i wrote it will gradually disappear. It means over time. It means with people cooperating within Ron Paul's administration.

I Hope for the Best and Expect the Worst.

Originally Posted by Mordan

Originally Posted by strawberryfynch

I'm sorry to say it but.... all of that can't be fixed with just 1 guy.... it takes time and many people cooperating... your expectations are too high...

i wrote it will gradually disappear. It means over time. It means with people cooperating within Ron Paul's administration.

I Hope for the Best and Expect the Worst.

By over time- I hope you don't just mean a decade... it would take a century at the least- and as you can see people are quite abrasive to the ideas of others... and this one.... is not quite realistic in the slightest.... and a president if he is lucky will run only 8 years... and his followers are usually ignored after he's gone so... Ron Paul- doesn't have too much of a chance.... I'm sorry.

Originally Posted by strawberryfynch

and this one.... is not quite realistic in the slightest....

yes you are right. It is especially quite unrealistic because all of you sit doing nothing or not enough. People are being abrasive on freedom and prosperity. Are people afraid to be free?

In the mean time, we, the beleivers, take our personal responsibility. The Ron Paul Revolution will go on, trust me.

Please don't ever complain on the sorry state of affairs in this world. I don't want to sound rude, but people who want to solve the Palestinian problem should overwhelmingly support Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is a long shot but let me remind you that George Washington was a long shot and he succeeded. David the underdog beat Goliath.

Originally Posted by Mordan

Originally Posted by strawberryfynch

and this one.... is not quite realistic in the slightest....

yes you are right. It is especially quite unrealistic because all of you sit doing nothing or not enough. People are being abrasive on freedom and prosperity. Are people afraid to be free?

People are afraid of freedom, never has the US actually been "free" of all the shackles that come with structured society. People can't do much because the government restricts them as well as their own minds, just as the government leads them through the slaughterhouse whilst calling it the happiest and most prosperous place on earth. This country needs someone with a good sense of their feet and what they can do within the time they are in office. His promises are just as empty as those of the other candidates... not one candidate is fit for office, so no matter what we do- the country is condemned. Are people so desperate for the perfect leader to back anyone with a pretty flyer?

Funny how a Belgian knows what's best for USA...

Why Ron Paul? Why not Vladimir Putin? He must be free in a month. It's good opportunity for world - "no war, no peace marches, no military presence somewhere, no stock market upheaval, no mortgage crisis, no collapsing dollar, no illegal intelligence agency spying, no tax debates, no interest rate drops, no deficit, no national debt, no job loss, no North American Union, no Mideast conflict, no lobbyist corruption, no energy crisis, no theft of social security funds, no nation building, no payments to dictators, no illegal aliens, and not enough left of the federal government to make a story with". Especially "no North American Union"... And I think Putin has the same chance as Paul...

Nobody would change things in America alone. Besides, the president, really, doesn't control the corporations. It's the other way around, really. U.S. governments invested a lot of efforts to make its population as politically passive as possible. Now, the majority of population is nothing more but a cattle, with less than 5-10% of thinking people. They wouldn't be able to change much. As long as 'the cattle' continues to get fed they are content. America needs to be shaken badly, I'm afraid, for some changes could take place. No president will change anything major, he simply doesn't have such a power.

90% of americans are cattle? I wonder in which statistical bureau you found that number! Are Russians really that much more "free thinking"? The president does have much to say, for example, if it wasn't for a certain president, there wouldn't be suicide bombers in Iraq today, if it wasn't for a certain president, America wouldn't have the largest deficit in its entire history and most likely it wouldn't be in a recession. The president has the final say in everything. Corporations have a lot of power, but they do not, and can not, control the government. They can only be very annoying and persuasive.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

90% of americans are cattle? I wonder in which statistical bureau you found that number! Are Russians really that much more "free thinking"?

90%? well... may be this number is a bit too high. But I'm afraid, what 75%-80% of *any* nation's population are almost like cattle. Blindly believing in everything they read in watch in media, never asking hard-answered questions to the authorities, etc., etc. I'm afraid, what this number absolutely does not depend from the political system -- no matter, is it so-called "democracy" or so-called "totalitarism" or something third, there is no more, than 15-20% of the population, which are able to more or less independent thinking. And the rest is, yes, quite like herd.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

90% of americans are cattle? I wonder in which statistical bureau you found that number! Are Russians really that much more "free thinking"?

Don't worry, I'm afraid it has become a worldwide statistics by now, and Russia is no exception.

The president does have much to say, for example, if it wasn't for a certain president, there wouldn't be suicide bombers in Iraq today, if it wasn't for a certain president, America wouldn't have the largest deficit in its entire history and most likely it wouldn't be in a recession.

Oh, are you trying to convince me, that trillions of dollars on Iraq were spent on a whim of a single halfwit? Don't make me laugh. US entered Iraq, because of some serious lobby towed it through the Congress and the Senate. And it did cost them. The president is just a representative of the powers that had put him in the oval room to do exactly that. Or do you think, the question about who will be the next president of the US would be left on a blind choice of 'free' elections? USA is a rule of money, the power of money, because of money, and for money.

The president has the final say in everything.

Yes, he has, but think of who tells him to say what he says? Or do you really believe that he decides everything all by himself?

Corporations have a lot of power, but they do not, and can not, control the government.

... directly. But there are always ways. A lot of politics is decided on golf lawns, for example.

They can only be very annoying and persuasive.

I think it's the government that can be sometimes very annoying for the corporations

The president is, as you correctly point out, a simple human being and can not decide everything by himself. He needs advisors and such. However, it is the president who choses who he surrounds himself with, not the party, the corporations, or the jewish conspiracy. The president wields an enormous power and can veto any law he feels like. He does need congressial and senatorial approval for major things, say war, but that is just common sense.

Replacing a president means replacing the whole supporting sturcture that goes with him. Dick Cheney is another "good riddance" fellow, but most of his evil empire have resigned, luckily for this country, and now he is but a lame duck.

Originally Posted by Mordan

The reason that the media doesn't like Ron is because, if he were elected, most of the things that they write about would gradually disappear. There would be no war, no peace marches, no military presence somewhere, no stock market upheaval, no mortgage crisis, no collapsing dollar, no illegal intelligence agency spying, no tax debates, no interest rate drops, no deficit, no national debt, no job loss, no North American Union, no Mideast conflict, no lobbyist corruption, no energy crisis, no theft of social security funds, no nation building, no payments to dictators, no illegal aliens, and not enough left of the federal government to make a story with.

it sickens me

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

The president is, as you correctly point out, a simple human being and can not decide everything by himself. He needs advisors and such. However, it is the president who choses who he surrounds himself with, not the party, the corporations, or the jewish conspiracy.

And the choices of advisers made by the president are always independent and wise. And of course, the US government is free from any corruption whatsoever.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

The president wields an enormous power and can veto any law he feels like. He does need congressial and senatorial approval for major things, say war, but that is just common sense.

As far as I know, the Congress can strip him of the money. And the Congress too is free from corruption.

I am not speaking about peace and war, I'm speaking about inner policy, budget distribution, taxes, wellfare, and the whole lot of other matters that are settled without the need of president's approval. These are the main things, not wars. Any idiot can declare a war, but a rare fellow can run the country well. And I was speaking about these little things that comprise the art of running the state. Saying that Iraq and Korea are bad doesn't require much skill and wisdom, I repeat - any robot can do that.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Funny how a Belgian knows what's best for USA...

yea funny so many germans support Ron Paul. Funny that Ron Paul is the only candidate to vote against the Patrio Act. Funny that germans compare the Patriot Act to Hitler's Erm

Originally Posted by Scorpio

And the rest is, yes, quite like herd.

This is the sheep nation Judge Napolitano refers to.

check out this interview. worth your time

http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/02/12/ ... -tv-video/

I used to be against Putin's style of democracy but now I see his managed democracy is way less hypocritical than western democracy. Now that's a provocation, because I truly hope America saves itself and become a truly free country with small government.

Ron Paul Republicans are my hope for a better future.