Thread: Putin's increasing police state and smth about some other countries

If Russia was going to remain a non-democratic one-party state; then: what was the point of all the chaos and tragedy in the 1990s?

Elections decide nothing in any country. The country was ruled by traitors who wanted to destroy Russia in order to establish the world government. But, fortunately, it did not happen.

If the purpose was to introduce market economy because the people wanted that -- then it would have been simpler to do what China did.

No one asked people what they wanted.

Originally Posted by Marcus

But, fortunately, it did not happen.

yet...

yet...

Почему вы такой пессимист?

Просто реалист.

Вы считаете, что у России нет будущего?

Я не знаю, но существуют силы желающие упразднять суверенные государства.

Вы абсолютно правы, сперк.

Originally Posted by sperk

Я не знаю, но существуют силы желающие упразднять суверенные государства.

Right here we're getting into another round of the conspiracy theory.

Originally Posted by sperk

Я не знаю, но существуют силы желающие упразднять суверенные государства.

Whoever it is they can wish all they want. Who cares?

Who cares?

Я. Эти силы обладают огромной властью.

Originally Posted by Marcus

Я. Эти силы обладают огромной властью.

Чистой воды троллизм.

Что такое "троллизм"? Я давно интересуюсь политикой, экономикой и историей, много читаю на эти темы, а ещё больше думаю, поэтому я не понимаю, почему вы так несерьёзно относитесь к моему мнению. То, что многим кажется глупой теорией заговора, для очевидно.

Теория заговора - это фигня. План Люцифера, он гораздо опаснее любых человеческих заговоров.

Originally Posted by Marcus

Что такое "троллизм"? Я давно интересуюсь политикой, экономикой и историей, много читаю на эти темы, а ещё больше думаю, поэтому я не понимаю, почему вы так несерьёзно относитесь к моему мнению. То, что многим кажется глупой теорией заговора, для очевидно.

You sound like you are 10 years old.

Those who say that there's no conspiracy are probably right. Everything is there on the plain view, so you can't call it conspiracy right? There is policy of the 'golden billion' against all others - to maintain the status quo. There are natural resources - metal, oil, gas, water, wood, etc - all of this is produced or extracted in the so called 'third world' countries. All of this is bought in exchange for US dollar - a green piece of paper that's worth nothing. If there's not enough dollars FRS will always print more.
Anyone who tries to introduce some other international reserve currency (like golden dinar as it was with Gaddafi) immediately gets a 'democracy operation' in his country. What conspiracy? It's all there and nobody makes a secret out of it. You can even hear them saying exactly what their policy is on TV.

Originally Posted by sperk

Я не знаю, но существуют силы желающие упразднять суверенные государства.

Все без исключения современные суверенные государства возникли в результате деятельности сил, упразднивших существовавшие до них другие суверенные государства. В таком случае, какой смысл защищать именно суверенные государства, а не эти самые силы? (Вопрос для тех, кто давно интересуется политикой, экономикой и историей.)

PS. If you guys like trolling I can definitely help.

Originally Posted by Marcus

Что такое "троллизм"?

Троллизм - есть троллистское администрирование плюс троллизация всего форума.

There is policy of the 'golden billion' against all others - to maintain the status quo.
=> Please, provide some proof.

There are natural resources - metal, oil, gas, water, wood, etc - all of this is produced or extracted in the so called 'third world' countries.
=> Not all. Some of it is produced in the second world countries. For example in Canada.

All of this is bought in exchange for US dollar - a green piece of paper that's worth nothing.
=> Any money worth nothing unless another person is [temporarily] willing to give you something for it (and vice versa). I think we have discussed it extensively in the past.

Anyone who tries to introduce some other international reserve currency (like golden dinar as it was with Gaddafi) immediately gets a 'democracy operation' in his country.
=> I would really like to learn more about that. Would you be able to provide me some links (not the google search results, but something that made your mind that way). I mean, what's so special about the golden dinar?

Originally Posted by Ramil

Anyone who tries to introduce some other international reserve currency (like golden dinar as it was with Gaddafi) immediately gets a 'democracy operation' in his country. What conspiracy? It's all there and nobody makes a secret out of it.

Wow, I'll be darned if you are not completely right. Saddam Hussein tried it too....
That's what it all comes down to. The dollar must be the top currency, even though it's actually not supported by anything other than the US military.... and then the need to commercialize everything, American style.

But there are two countries which the US cannot take on and be sure to win: China and Russia. Europe is already in the US pocket...

But if China and Russia could come to an agreement together to switch do some alternative, then things might change. Apparently China itself has masses of dollars saved though, and can not afford for them to lose their value.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Wow, I'll be darned if you are not completely right.

A little light-minded for a believer, might I say.