Thread: Occupy Wall Street around the world.... Your thoughts and feelings about it!

Demonstrators at Wall Street have complained of thefts of assorted items such as cameras, phones, and laptops. Thieves also stole $2500 of donations that were stored in a makeshift kitchen.

Which are all made by evil corporations:

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Scott

Originally Posted by nulle

Which are all made by evil corporations:

Ever met someone who was born without the help of branded Durable Medical Equipment? Ever met someone who's baby derriere never touched the synthetic surface of some Huggies? Ever met someone who was able to grow in their human teeth without ingesting some Gerber baby food or formula? Have you ever met someone whose family made all their own clothes, grew their own food, maintained their own home, didn't deal with landlords, taxmen, utility companies, building and territorial authorities?

It's great that you can draw arrows to protesters to try to undermine their message.. But have you ever really met one person who didn't live in The Matrix? Mind you, you're on a computer right now; within twenty feet of you are names like Apple, Pentium, MSI, and the like. The plastic over every key you strike on your keyboard was tooled in a vacuous-vaulted factory, out of molten synthetic petroleum plastic, by a huge company with a huge name.

I'm sorry, but do the conservatives and those who criticize this movement live entirely off-the-grid, and don't feed into these monsters themselves?

No, of course not. The difference is, one group is standing up and trying to make it known that this is not a state (the state of corporate enslavement) that we wish to help maintain.

The naysayers, on the other hand, offer us the following solution to our problems:

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Originally Posted by kidkboom

Ever met someone who was born without the help of branded Durable Medical Equipment? Ever met someone who's baby derriere never touched the synthetic surface of some Huggies? Ever met someone who was able to grow in their human teeth without ingesting some Gerber baby food or formula? Have you ever met someone whose family made all their own clothes, grew their own food, maintained their own home, didn't deal with landlords, taxmen, utility companies, building and territorial authorities?

It's great that you can draw arrows to protesters to try to undermine their message.. But have you ever really met one person who didn't live in The Matrix? Mind you, you're on a computer right now; within twenty feet of you are names like Apple, Pentium, MSI, and the like. The plastic over every key you strike on your keyboard was tooled in a vacuous-vaulted factory, out of molten synthetic petroleum plastic, by a huge company with a huge name.

I'm sorry, but do the conservatives and those who criticize this movement live entirely off-the-grid, and don't feed into these monsters themselves?

No, of course not. The difference is, one group is standing up and trying to make it known that this is not a state (the state of corporate enslavement) that we wish to help maintain.

The naysayers, on the other hand, offer us the following solution to our problems:

...

Shouldn't you ask yourself why you too also feed into the monster "within twenty feet of you are names like Apple, Pentium, MSI, and the like. The plastic over every key you strike on your keyboard was tooled in a vacuous-vaulted factory, out of molten synthetic petroleum plastic, by a huge company with a huge name." that you criticize?

What is the Occupiers solution for not maintaining the state of corporate enslavement? Standing in a park? Hoping that their student loans will be excused?


I do offer you a solution - drop out. Get a piece of land and farm it. OK?

As for the USA, I think that term limits for congress (both houses) would be a big help to solve the corruption that is devastating the country.

Scott

Originally Posted by fortheether

Shouldn't you ask yourself why you too also feed into the monster "within twenty feet of you are names like Apple, Pentium, MSI, and the like. The plastic over every key you strike on your keyboard was tooled in a vacuous-vaulted factory, out of molten synthetic petroleum plastic, by a huge company with a huge name." that you criticize?

What is the Occupiers solution for not maintaining the state of corporate enslavement? Standing in a park? Hoping that their student loans will be excused?


I do offer you a solution - drop out. Get a piece of land and farm it. OK?

As for the USA, I think that term limits for congress (both houses) would be a big help to solve the corruption that is devastating the country.

Scott

I do ask myself why I feed into the monster. I willingly step out of just about every sphere of these monsters that I can. I don't own a TV, and I've never owned a car, and I got rid of my cell phone years ago. And actually, a friend of mine and I are shopping for a bit of land right now.. though the obstacles that the authorities place in the way are numerous and staggering.

Scott, I agree with you about the term limits, that this would be an improvement. I personally think a more drastic change needs to happen, however, if we're going to stain the paper with ink at this point in history, and not merely a mark of graphite that the next several years will wear off.

Standing in a park, talking about change without an exact plan.. Sounds familiar. I think something like that once happened at a concert on farmland in New York in the 60s. The authorities were pissed then, too, but they didn't have the eggs to start shooting people, like they did Scott Olsen. No, back then, they just flew over in helicopters.. As Tom Robbins once said, "We used to have a crime problem in this country. Now we have a cop problem in this country."

Of course, in the long run, the helicopters weren't enough.. internal intelligence services had to introduce foreign heroin to the domestic market in large enough amounts to poison-pill the entire generation of those we now know as "hippies".. this cleared the way for the coming of the warmongering 80s and the warpath of ronald rayguns..

So, how does this one end up? Instead of getting a small % of support from the general populace, we find our fellow man so jaded as to brush us off *completely*, and help to remove any chance we have of making a change?

If the occupy folks can't convince you, one average American, that they have a reason to be upset.. what chance do any of us have to change things?

Do you really think limiting congressional terms will make tomorrow any different from yesterday? Because to me, it feels like plugging the Hoover dam with a piece of gum..

Originally Posted by kidkboom

I do ask myself why I feed into the monster. I willingly step out of just about every sphere of these monsters that I can. I don't own a TV, and I've never owned a car, and I got rid of my cell phone years ago. And actually, a friend of mine and I are shopping for a bit of land right now.. though the obstacles that the authorities place in the way are numerous and staggering.

Scott, I agree with you about the term limits, that this would be an improvement. I personally think a more drastic change needs to happen, however, if we're going to stain the paper with ink at this point in history, and not merely a mark of graphite that the next several years will wear off.

Standing in a park, talking about change without an exact plan.. Sounds familiar. I think something like that once happened at a concert on farmland in New York in the 60s. The authorities were pissed then, too, but they didn't have the eggs to start shooting people, like they did Scott Olsen. No, back then, they just flew over in helicopters.. As Tom Robbins once said, "We used to have a crime problem in this country. Now we have a cop problem in this country."

Of course, in the long run, the helicopters weren't enough.. internal intelligence services had to introduce foreign heroin to the domestic market in large enough amounts to poison-pill the entire generation of those we now know as "hippies".. this cleared the way for the coming of the warmongering 80s and the warpath of ronald rayguns..

So, how does this one end up? Instead of getting a small % of support from the general populace, we find our fellow man so jaded as to brush us off *completely*, and help to remove any chance we have of making a change?

If the occupy folks can't convince you, one average American, that they have a reason to be upset.. what chance do any of us have to change things?

Do you really think limiting congressional terms will make tomorrow any different from yesterday? Because to me, it feels like plugging the Hoover dam with a piece of gum..

Kidkboom - I applaud you for backing up your words with your actions and not feeding into the "monster". I suspect most of the Occupiers don't "walk the walk". Of course I see a lot of people that are upset. What changes do you want to make though?

I don't see that congressional term limits would make a difference right away but some of the scum that have been there for years and draining the system would be term limited out and new blood put in their place.

Scott