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  1. November 29th, 2006, 12:03 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan
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    No, more likely is that either someone is settling a personal score or there is a plot to make Russia look bad. And it is working, today a British minister publically denounced Russia.
    Just out of curiousity, why is the theory of a big conspirancy against Russia is so popular? Tell me what country would take the risk to kill a russian in London JUST to give Russia a bad image? Image that will be ignored because Russia has oil and gas!! Putin knows that very well.

    I don't think Putin is personally behind this, but some high ranked people in Russia have strong privates agendas.
    Why a country Mordan? Russia has plenty of rich personal enemies.
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  2. November 29th, 2006, 12:11 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Quote Originally Posted by Тоби
    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    Talk about trial by media.
    Doesn't that happen to America all the time. And most folks think its ok, until they get a taste of it.
    Да, в Америке часто происходит. Надо просто прочитать статью про игрока американского футбола, которого в убийстве своей жены обвинила публика без доказательства....

    basurero wrote:
    Скорее всего, Путин просто испытывает удовольствие от страдания его врагов!
    Вы это всерьёз или так, типа шутка юмора ?
    Я преувеличился, но все-таки это возможно, не так ли?
    Да, в Америке часто происходит. Надо просто прочитать статью про игрока американского футбола, которого в убийстве своей жены обвинила публика без доказательства....

    Say what?????? There was plenty of evidence including DNA!!!! OJ Simpson's scumbag lawyer and stupid black jury got him off in the first (criminal) trial but he was found guilty in the civil court!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan
    Just out of curiousity, why is the theory of a big conspirancy against Russia is so popular? Tell me what country would take the risk to kill a russian in London JUST to give Russia a bad image?
    What country? Russia of course.
    Both murders of Politkovskaya and Litvinenko are planned in Russia. But that doesn't mean that official Kremlin is behind this. And considering forthcoming Duma elections and then President elections there are at least some people in Russia who might see some advantages in discrediting Putin. I'm not saying Putin's holy but I seriously doubt that he ordered those killings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Она не выдерживает никакой критики, только если рассматривать "Россию", "Путина" и "Спецслужбы" как нечто единое и целое, с общими интересами.
    Я не очень-то верю в то, что спецслужбы ведут какую-то свою игру за спиной Путина. Разве что отдельные представители. Мне кажется, что в контексте данной проблемы интересы "России", "Путина" и "Спецслужб" как раз совпадают.
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  5. November 29th, 2006, 10:00 AM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Да, в Америке такое часто происходит. Надо просто прочитать статью про игрока американского футбола, которого публика бездоказательно обвинила в убийстве своей жены ....


    Я преувеличил_, но все-таки это возможно, не так ли?
    It seems to me, Putin looks like some mad sadistic maniac in your eyes.
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  6. November 29th, 2006, 11:01 AM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Я преувеличился, но все-таки это возможно, не так ли?
    Наш президент - нормальный парень, заслуженно занимающий своё место. Не думаю, что им владеют такого рода эмоции, о которых Вы упомянули. Во-первых приличный человек, во-вторых выбрали его не для этого.
    Тут уж надо поверить на слово. Иначе это воспринимается как неуважение к семидесяти процентам россиян, поддерживающих Путина.
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  7. November 29th, 2006, 11:29 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan
    Just out of curiousity, why is the theory of a big conspirancy against Russia is so popular? Tell me what country would take the risk to kill a russian in London JUST to give Russia a bad image?
    What country? Russia of course.
    Both murders of Politkovskaya and Litvinenko are planned in Russia. But that doesn't mean that official Kremlin is behind this. And considering forthcoming Duma elections and then President elections there are at least some people in Russia who might see some advantages in discrediting Putin. I'm not saying Putin's holy but I seriously doubt that he ordered those killings.
    that's exactly my opinion
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  8. November 29th, 2006, 02:13 PM #48
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    По теме?
    http://www.newsprom.ru/news/116482521289124.shtml
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  9. November 29th, 2006, 02:47 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Надо просто прочитать статью про игрока американского футбола, которого публика бездоказательно обвинила в убийстве своей жены ....
    Если оставить фразу в таком виде, то получается, что речь идет о жене публики. Я думаю, что следует сказать просто "которого публика бездоказательно обвинила в убийстве _ жены".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Она не выдерживает никакой критики, только если рассматривать "Россию", "Путина" и "Спецслужбы" как нечто единое и целое, с общими интересами.
    Я не очень-то верю в то, что спецслужбы ведут какую-то свою игру за спиной Путина. Разве что отдельные представители.
    Ну так дык. Вообще, многое часто становится понятнее, если не забывать что все состоит из отдельных представителей.
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    One more poisoning case, this time with the former Russia prime-minister and former Litvinenko's boss Egor Gaidar:
    http://www.rusnovosti.ru/news/?/20061129/09/38817

    Such a fate awaits all critics of our great and mighty president!

    Oh, my God! I'v just remembered my recent post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    Как ты не понимешь! Путин ведёт страну к тоталитаризму и диктатуре! Национализирует нефтяную и газовую отрасли! Отбирает у белых, пушистых (прямо ангелочки), справедливых и демократичных олигархов их компании и передаёт мерзкому, коррумпированному, тоталитарному государству, а потом бросает этих святых мученников в тюрьмы! Мы все тут стонем под гнётом режима, который установил Путин! Он убил демократию в России!
    I'll have to check my supper meal tonight...
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  12. November 29th, 2006, 11:20 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77

    I'll have to check my supper meal tonight...

    Where can you buy a micro "Geiger counter"? I'm planning to visit Russia this winter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    One more poisoning case, this time with the former Russia prime-minister and former Litvinenko's boss Egor Gaidar:
    http://www.rusnovosti.ru/news/?/20061129/09/38817

    Such a fate awaits all critics of our great and mighty president!

    Oh, my God! I'v just remembered my recent post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    Как ты не понимешь! Путин ведёт страну к тоталитаризму и диктатуре! Национализирует нефтяную и газовую отрасли! Отбирает у белых, пушистых (прямо ангелочки), справедливых и демократичных олигархов их компании и передаёт мерзкому, коррумпированному, тоталитарному государству, а потом бросает этих святых мученников в тюрьмы! Мы все тут стонем под гнётом режима, который установил Путин! Он убил демократию в России!
    I'll have to check my supper meal tonight...
    What the hell is going on in Russia???
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  14. November 30th, 2006, 02:13 AM #54
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    I think people are just edgy. If a person sneezes they will accuse Putin for infecting them with biological weapons!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    I think people are just edgy. If a person sneezes they will accuse Putin for infecting them with biological weapons!
    Yeah but... don't you think it's too much for just a coincidence????
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    Oh Litvinenko and Politavskaya are probably not coincidences, but I think that the media will try to find more victims than there really are!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    Oh Litvinenko and Politavskaya are probably not coincidences, but I think that the media will try to find more victims than there really are!
    Even one person killed by Russian government, just because he/she opposed it, is more than enough to worry about the system... Communists used to do this...
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    The fact is that we don't have any hard proof of who killed these people. So you can't accuse a whole government, when you are simply speculating!

    But I agree with you entirely! A goverment that kills people just because of criticism is a dangerous one.
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    I ran out of milk when I needed it for macaroni and cheese this afternoon. I accuse Putin. Obviously, this means he did it. <sarcasm x50000>

    Since when do KV and I agree? The apocalypse must be upon us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    Oh Litvinenko and Politavskaya are probably not coincidences, but I think that the media will try to find more victims than there really are!
    Even one person killed by Russian government, just because he/she opposed it, is more than enough to worry about the system... Communists used to do this...
    Only communists? Do you think the American government was communistic?
    It has been estimated that there have been over 600 attempts on Castro's life committed by the CIA.
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