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    More poisoning...

    What are we westerns to think of Russia? Another assasination on a critic of the Russian government... This time the target was Alexander Litvinenko.

    In English:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6163646.stm

    In Russian:
    http://www.gazeta.ru/2006/11/18/oa_224165.shtml
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    This breaking of this story has been a bit... odd...

    The poisoning happened on Nov 1st, and I first read about it on BBC News last Monday or Tuesday when they interviewed Litvinenko in hospital, the story was buried somewhere in the BBCRussian news section, and was evidently deamed so unimportant that it only appeared in English around the middle of the week, still buried in the European News section. Then suddenly on Sunday it became headline, frontpage news in all the Sunday papers, who all used the BBC story as their only source of info, and some sort of feedback loop kicked in and the BBC started running it as their main news headline. The story on BBCNews.com suddenly got bumped up to World News Headline event, and the week-old story that started it all disappeared completely.

    So, it seems to me that someone with an agenda and a lot of influence decided the story wasn't getting enough airtime and nudged it forward a bit.

    That's to say nothing of the frankly shameless propagandising and join-the-dots-for-the-great-unwashed leaps of logic the BBC used in their report (KGB Spy... Assassination... Soviet Union... Putin... Anna Polistovskaya... Georgi Markov... Chechnya) even inviting Litinkenko's lawyer on for a rant during which he directly accused the FSB of trying to kill his client. They even asked Boris Flippin' Berezovsky for a quote on the matter for Chrissakes, how's that for balanced? And even that was no doubt still far more restrained than what appeared in any of the papers.

    I find myself a whole lot less concerned about the story itself than about the agendas of those bringing it to our attention, the means by which they are so doing, and the downright dishonest manner in which it is being reported.

    That's not to say I don't believe that it really happened, I just hate being propagandised to.

    On days like today I am bloody glad I haven't payed my BBC license fee in about 12 years

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    There is another topic discussing this:

    http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?t=11983

    -- there I said what I'm thinking about it.
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    What?! I posted the topic first!!! Hmpf!
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    Re: More poisoning...

    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    What are we westerns to think of Russia? Another assasination on a critic of the Russian government... This time the target was Alexander Litvinenko.

    In English:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6163646.stm

    In Russian:
    http://www.gazeta.ru/2006/11/18/oa_224165.shtml
    Did you want to say - westerners?. Also, it was an assassination attempt, he is still alive.
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    lol, I guess it was getting kinda late when I wrote it
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    Just in: Well... Litvinenko has died. Putin must be so proud of himself!

    What's next tovarischi russkiye?????
    Well, I don't know what to say. I want to say thanks to the Academy, to Mama, to Papa and to my dog. I love you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Just in: Well... Litvinenko has died. Putin must be so proud of himself!

    What's next tovarischi russkiye?????
    YOU ARE! BE AFRAID OF US! WOOF! WOOF!

    Damn! Is there anybody who can explain to me what the profit Pooty-Poot got of Litvinenko's death?
    Gib immer 100% bei der Arbeit: 12% am Montag, 23% am Dienstag, 40% am Mittwoch, 20% am Donnerstag, 5% am Freitag ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Just in: Well... Litvinenko has died. Putin must be so proud of himself!

    What's next tovarischi russkiye?????
    YOU ARE! BE AFRAID OF US! WOOF! WOOF!

    Damn! Is there anybody whp can explain to me what the profit Pooty-Poot got of Litvinenko's death?
    Why don't you go ask him?
    Well, I don't know what to say. I want to say thanks to the Academy, to Mama, to Papa and to my dog. I love you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Why don't you go ask him?
    I did. He said it was Tony bLair's MI6, becouse of Litvinenko didnt tell them SUPER RUSSIAN SECRET. And they did with him just like in Agatha Christy book.
    Gib immer 100% bei der Arbeit: 12% am Montag, 23% am Dienstag, 40% am Mittwoch, 20% am Donnerstag, 5% am Freitag ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Why don't you go ask him?
    I did. He said it was Tony bLair's MI6, becouse of Litvinenko didnt tell them SUPER RUSSIAN SECRET. And they did with him just like in Agatha Christy book.
    And then, Tony told George, and... I see the pattern
    Well, I don't know what to say. I want to say thanks to the Academy, to Mama, to Papa and to my dog. I love you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Why don't you go ask him?
    I did. He said it was Tony bLair's MI6, becouse of Litvinenko didnt tell them SUPER RUSSIAN SECRET. And they did with him just like in Agatha Christy book.

    looks like it is polonium... never heard of that before here in Europe...

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    Re: More poisoning...

    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    What are we westerns to think of Russia? Another assasination on a critic of the Russian government... This time the target was Alexander Litvinenko.

    In English:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6163646.stm

    In Russian:
    http://www.gazeta.ru/2006/11/18/oa_224165.shtml
    There is a good Russian expression: "пауки в банке".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan
    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Why don't you go ask him?
    I did. He said it was Tony bLair's MI6, becouse of Litvinenko didnt tell them SUPER RUSSIAN SECRET. And they did with him just like in Agatha Christy book.

    looks like it is polonium... never heard of that before here in Europe...
    Polonium is very radioactive, especially polonium-210 isotope
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Why don't you go ask him?
    I did. He said it was Tony bLair's MI6, becouse of Litvinenko didnt tell them SUPER RUSSIAN SECRET. And they did with him just like in Agatha Christy book.
    And then, Tony told George, and... I see the pattern
    It's all CIA and Mossad scheming. I'm sure of it
    Send me a PM if you need me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Why don't you go ask him?
    I did. He said it was Tony bLair's MI6, becouse of Litvinenko didnt tell them SUPER RUSSIAN SECRET. And they did with him just like in Agatha Christy book.
    And then, Tony told George, and... I see the pattern
    It's all CIA and Mossad scheming. I'm sure of it
    Yeah right....like, they have nothing better to do Neah...Who was pissed off at Litvinenko? How do you spell P-U-T-I-N?
    Well, I don't know what to say. I want to say thanks to the Academy, to Mama, to Papa and to my dog. I love you all.

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    Re: More poisoning...

    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    What are we westerns to think of Russia? Another assasination on a critic of the Russian government... This time the target was Alexander Litvinenko.
    who cares what you westerners think of anything. How does the "west" always stand in judgement of others while running around the world starting wars and supporting the continuing holocaust against the Palestinians? At least there are critics of the gov't in Russia; in the west the lap-dog corporate media can offer nothing but token criticism.
    Кому - нары, кому - Канары.

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    Re: More poisoning...

    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    What are we westerns to think of Russia? Another assasination on a critic of the Russian government... This time the target was Alexander Litvinenko.
    who cares what you westerners think of anything. How does the "west" always stand in judgement of others while running around the world starting wars and supporting the continuing holocaust against the Palestinians? At least there are critics of the gov't in Russia; in the west the lap-dog corporate media can offer nothing but token criticism.
    because supporting Iran overtly advocating the destruction of Israel is better? Anyway if Jews weren't there, Arabs Sunnites would fight Arab Chiites. Jews are very convenient for many Arab leaders.

    Are you talking of Anna Politkovskaya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Quote Originally Posted by charlestonian
    Just in: Well... Litvinenko has died. Putin must be so proud of himself!

    What's next tovarischi russkiye?????
    YOU ARE! BE AFRAID OF US! WOOF! WOOF!

    Damn! Is there anybody who can explain to me what the profit Pooty-Poot got of Litvinenko's death?
    Может быть в убийстве Литвиненко не было никакой выгоды для российского правительства, но нужна ли в действительности выгода для того, чтобы его убить?

    Нет! Выгода ненужна! Скорее всего, Путин просто испытывает удовольствие от страдания его врагов!

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    Isn't it a little suspicious that all these incidents happen to be before large Russia-EU meetings? Why do you think Russia wants to tarnish its own image? No, more likely is that either someone is settling a personal score or there is a plot to make Russia look bad. And it is working, today a British minister publically denounced Russia.
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