Thread: Latest from Ukraine

Originally Posted by 14Russian

That's my theory on why all the fakes.

You mean they show all the fakes to lose their own credibility and to confirm that there is no Russian troops in Ukraine?
Does Kiev do all the fakes for the same reason?

Originally Posted by hddscan

You mean they show all the fakes to lose their own credibility and to confirm that there is no Russian troops in Ukraine?
Does Kiev do all the fakes for the same reason?

Oh, so every image or example is a fake? Putinoid logic again - Russian/rebel source true - everything else is fake/false.

I don't know of any Kiev fakes. They're all fakes according to you. Anything that comes from the other parts of Ukraine (Kiev or otherwise) is a fake - by definition. It's a waste of time answering your nonsense.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Oh, so every image or example is a fake?

I don't know that but I haven't seen any which are not fake.
For example:
Footage of BUK showed by Kiev claiming that it's rebels'/Russian - confirmed to be filmed on Ukrainian-controlled sites.
Satellite images from Pentagon, with crayon drawings - confirmed to be fake
Latest satellite images don't even prove anything, it's just black spots of something on it, not even have shapes of vehicles
Germany footage - it's from 2008
US senate pictures - again, from 2008
Crater analysis - is not a proof, per article.

Do you know anything else?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

They're all fakes according to you.

I can back my words with links on investigations, just tell me which ones you'd like to see

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Putinoid logic again - Russian/rebel source true - everything else is fake/false.

Also, please refrain from personal attacks they don't make you look more credible, quite the opposite.
And I think people get banned for that

Originally Posted by hddscan

Also, please refrain from personal attacks they don't make you look more credible, quite the opposite.
And I think people get banned for that

Then, you'll probably get banned soon? I only posted a truth.

'Again, not true (already wrote to Lampada about that)
Ukrainian army was advancing Spring-Summer of 2014 until they lost a huge battle near Illovaysk.'
So what? I'm talking about the endless advancement and presence of heavy military that is ongoing. The population differences etc. etc. So, you have no answer as I suspected. Thank you.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

I'm talking about the endless advancement and presence of heavy military that is ongoing.

Again, I explained it before. After Illovaysk the rebels got more heavy military equipment from Ukrainian army
Also the "endless advancement" aren't so advanced if you look on the map. There are only 2: Donetsk airport (which was supposed to stay under rebels per September Minsk talks anyway) and Debaltesevo. Did I miss anything?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

I only posted a truth.

Somehow reminds me

Originally Posted by hddscan

Somehow reminds me

14-й напоминает тебе Новодворскую? Смелая женщина была, умная, талантливая, с редким чувством юмора.
Украину любила.

Originally Posted by Lampada

14-й напоминает тебе Новодворскую? Смелая женщина была, умная, талантливая, с редким чувством юмора.
Украину любила.

И ненавидела Россию, ага.
Достаточно почитать биографию, и от "смелой, умной, талантливой женщины с редким чувством юмора" не останется ни-че-го.

Originally Posted by Lampada

14-й напоминает тебе Новодворскую? Смелая женщина была, умная, талантливая, с редким чувством юмора.
Украину любила.

Чувство юмора у неё действительно было специфическое. Позволю себе её немного процитировать:

Originally Posted by Валерия Ильинична Новодворская

...В России, объективно, есть только 5-10% нормальных людей. Остальными можно пожертвовать, при необходимости, во благо этого меньшинства.

…Например, меня совершенно не волнует, сколько ракет выпустит демократическая Америка по недемократическому Ираку. По мне, чем больше, тем лучше. Так же, как меня совершенно не ужасает неприятность, приключившаяся с Хиросимой и Нагасаки. Зато смотрите, какая из Японии получилась конфетка. Просто «сникерс». Семерка в Токио заседает, парламент либеральный имеется. Игра стоила свеч.

...Русские в Эстонии и Латвии доказали своим нытьем, своей лингвистической бездарностью, своей тягой назад в СССР, своим пристрастием к красным флагам, что их нельзя с правами пускать в европейскую цивилизацию. Их положили у параши и правильно сделали. А когда Нарва требует себе автономии, для меня это равносильно требованию лагерных «петухов» дать им самоуправление.

...Я лично правами человека накушалась досыта. Некогда и мы, и ЦРУ, и США использовали эту идею как таран для уничтожения коммунистического режима и развала СССР. Эта идея отслужила свое и хватит врать про права человека и про правозащитников...

...В России всё растекается и свисает, как макароны с ложки. Шестая часть суши была заселена беспозвоночной протоплазмой.

Originally Posted by hddscan

Somehow reminds me

That wouldv'e been the case if he changed the order the words "I" and "only" went. But not the way he originally made his post. =))

Originally Posted by hddscan

Somehow reminds me

= blah, blah, blah...
FACT: 1. Pro-Putin people refuse to believe anything other than pro-Kremlin/Putin information. Norossiya/rebel side always says the truth; never lies, according to them. Any other source is a lie. This is their logic in a nutshell. They think everyone else is ignorant or lying.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

= blah, blah, blah...
FACT: 1. Pro-Putin people refuse to believe anything other than pro-Kremlin/Putin information. Norossiya/rebel side always says the truth; never lies, according to them. Any other source is a lie. This is their logic in a nutshell. They think everyone else is ignorant or lying.

I guess you referring to me, while I can't say that I'm 100% pro-Putin I'll reply to it.
I read several sources of information:
Ukrainian source pravda.com.ua
DPR source - rusvesna.su
Russian source - ria.ru
UK source - theguardian.com
I used to check CNN but they don't publish a lot of info about Ukraine, so I stopped following it
I also watch videoblog of this guy https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шарий,...ольевич

I believe facts, all 4 official sources have been caught by me of telling lies, all of them, so I cannot say that rebel side never lies.

I don't know what conclusion you would draw from it but it is what it is.