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Ukraine reacted as most countries would if some party or party group was trying to undermine it and take away part of its territory.

Yes, more or less. But they went further and sent not only regular army, but also battalions consisted of criminals, who are terrorizing the locals.
Also, not every country would bomb onto own cities, including schools and hospitals (Ukrainian weapons are not too accurate).
How people after that would want to live in such "ordinary" country?

Originally Posted by maxmixiv

Yes, more or less. But they went further and sent not only regular army, but also battalions consisted of criminals, who are terrorizing the locals.
Also, not every country would bomb onto own cities, including schools and hospitals (Ukrainian weapons are not too accurate).
How people after that would want to live in such "ordinary" country?

Who did? In Crimea? What criminals terrorized locals in Crimea? How could any - when Russian soldiers were taking over the territory even before the sham referendum. I think you pay attention to too much Kremlin propaganda. Your media is not balanced at all.

' not every country would bomb onto own cities, including schools and hospitals' - Does it make sense? So, Ukrainians are the only ones who bomb their own cities and schools? Really? So, they thought they can gain sympathy from ordinary citizens by intentionally bombing their homes? They can convince people to 'join them' by terrorizing them? It makes no sense.

I can only concede that the Ukr. government doesn't do itself any favours trying to fight off the rebels (this isn't on the topic of Crimea now) and I am against the regime in general. But, on the topic of Crimea, it makes no sense that there was any terrorization of locals with a military presence from Russia in the territory. Anything about that is just propaganda. Kremlin media know there's a lot of gullible people they can convince.

Originally Posted by maxmixiv

Yes, more or less. But they went further and sent not only regular army, but also battalions consisted of criminals, who are terrorizing the locals.
Also, not every country would bomb onto own cities, including schools and hospitals (Ukrainian weapons are not too accurate).
How people after that would want to live in such "ordinary" country?

У тебя звучит так, что украинские войска не воюют с террористами и боевиками, а просто бомбят свои города, школы и госпитали.
И ещё, мог бы дать нормальные ссылки на информацию про украинские батальоны, составленные из криминальных преступников? У меня нагуглилось фссб, которому трудно доверять.
В сентябре были единичные случаи грабежей лицами из добровольческих бригад, которые расследовала военная прокуратура.

Originally Posted by Lampada

И ещё, мог бы дать нормальные ссылки на информацию про украинские батальоны, составленные из криминальных преступников? У меня нагуглилось фссб, которому трудно доверять.
В сентябре были единичные случаи грабежей лицами из добровольческих бригад, которые расследовала военная прокуратура.

Kichtento, Kiev appointed governor of Donbas, claims that at least 20 percent of participants of so called volunteer battalions make illegal profits on the war!

Речь о том, что среди патриотов Украины, которые сегодня защищают нашу страну с оружием в руках, оказалось достаточное количество и тех, кто, пользуясь войной, старается, мягко говоря, поправить свое материальное положение. Если говорить о количестве таких людей, то где-то процентов 20 от общего числа наберется. Безусловно, не во всех батальонах. Но не замечать и замалчивать данные факты нельзя. Они есть, в докладной записке я их называю, и их нужно оперативно проверять. Когда у людей появляется в руках оружие, много оружия, всегда есть соблазн его применить. В том числе, и ради своего обогащения.

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