Thread: Jewish genocide against Russia, Ukraine..........

My relatives and my fellow Christians were murdered in the USSR under Jewish Marxism between 1917-1945, and many of the Marxists came to Russia from New York to do this to Christians in 1917 after Jacob Schiff, the Jewish anti-Christian maniac banker who owned The Guaranty National Trust, the largest bank in the United States, financed Lenin and Trotsky $35 million for the Red Revolution and the mass killing of these Christian souls. We must never forget this! Nicholas Utin, a Jew, the First Russian Marist, 1860's to 1870's.
Instrumental in Creating a Russian Section in the First Communist International.

'In the 1860s and '70s, Jewish activists occupied some of the highest positions in the fledgling Russian revolutionary movement. The "pioneer of Russian-Jewish revolutionary action" was Nicholas Utin, a baptised Jew who was instrumental in creating a Russian Section in the First International. Known as the first Russian Marxist, Utin was prominent in the struggle of the International's Marxian wing against the anarchistic tactics of Bakunin. '

-- Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, p 10 from material printed originally in Parkin, A.L. The Origins of the Russian-Jewish Labour Movement. F.W.Cheshire Pty Ltd. Melbourne. 1947. p80.



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Jewish Founders of the Russian Social-Democratic Movement in 1883
Hesya Helfmann, Jewish Assassin of Czar Alexander

"Utin was followed by a great number of Jews including Mark Natanson, the founder of the Russian Narodnik movement, Paul Axeirod who together with George Plckahnov and Vera Zasulitch formed the "Triumvirate" of the founders of the Russian Social-Democratic movement in 1883, Rosalie Bograd who married Plekhanov, Meir Molodetsky, Gregory Goldenberg, Mw Deutch, Vladimir Jochelson, Aaron Sundelievitch, and Hesya Helfmann, who was among those sentenced to death for the assassination of Czar Alexander."

-- Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, p 10 from information found in: Parkin, A.L. The Origins of the Russian-Jewish Labour Movement. F.W.Cheshire Pty Ltd. Melbourne. 1947. pp8O-84; Feuer, Op Cit, pp157-158; Ascher, Abraham. "Pavel Axelrod: A Conflict Between Jewish Loyalty and Revolutionary Dedication" in Russian Review 24 1965, pp249-265; Schapiro, Leonard. "The Role of the Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement" in Slavonic and East European Review 490 (Dec 1961), pp 148-167.



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Jewish Socialism in 1980-1900.
Revolutionary Emotion and Socialist Protests Among Jewish Student Youth.

'In the following two decades - in the '80s and '90s - the "explosion of revolutionary emotion among Jewish student youth" crystallised into a movement of Jewish socialism, the first of its kind in Jewish history.'4 Patkin traces the origins of "Jewish Socialism" to the "two explosive elements - mass misery and intellectual doctrine" which had existed in Jewish life for many previous generations. These explosive elements had often produced mass revolts against the rich and the powerful in communal affairs, one example being the emergence of the Chassidic movement, Jewish socialism reflected the extension of Chassidism as a doctrine "for the poor" into a "revolutionary situation of social protest and resentment."'

-- Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, p 10, from material gathered in Parkin, A.L. The Origins of the Russian-Jewish Labour Movement. F.W.Cheshire Pty Ltd. Melbourne. 1947. p80.



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THE JEWISH GULAG WORK CAMPS FOR THEIR USSR POLITICAL PRISONERS

http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/gulag.html Found on this site on July 12, 1998

The Soviet system of forced labor camps was first established in 1919 under the Cheka, but it was not until the early 1930s that the camp population reached significant numbers. By 1934 the GULAG, or Main Directorate for Corrective Labor Camps, then under the Cheka's successor organization the NKVD, had several million inmates. Prisoners included murderers, thieves, and other common criminals-along with political and religious dissenters. The GULAG, whose camps were located mainly in remote regions of Siberia and the Far North, made significant contributions to the Soviet economy in the period of Joseph Stalin. GULAG prisoners constructed the White Sea-Baltic Canal, the Moscow-Volga Canal, the Baikal-Amur main railroad line, numerous hydroelectric stations, and strategic roads and industrial enterprises in remote regions. GULAG manpower was also used for much of the country's lumbering and for the mining of coal, copper, and gold. Stalin constantly increased the number of projects assigned to the NKVD, which led to an increasing reliance on its labor. The GULAG also served as a source of workers for economic projects independent of the NKVD, which contracted its prisoners out to various economic enterprises. Conditions in the camps were extremely harsh. Prisoners received inadequate food rations and insufficient clothing, which made it difficult to endure the severe weatherand the long working hours; sometimes the inmates were physically abused by camp guards. As a result, the death rate from exhaustion and disease in the camps was high. After Stalin died in 1953, the GULAG population was reduced significantly, and conditions for inmates somewhat improved. Forced labor camps continued to exist, although on a small scale, into the Gorbachev period, and the government even opened some camps to scrutiny by journalists and human rights activists. With the advance of democratization, political prisoners and prisoners of conscience all but disappeared from the camps. [NOTE: The communists had their concentration camps in service since 1919 all the way up to and including the Gorbachev period.]


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INHUMANE CONDITIONS IN THE GULAG SYSTEM INVENTED BY JEWS RUNNING THE USSR:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhi ... resid.html Found on this site on July 12, 1998

To the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolshevik) We appeal to you, asking you to pay a minimum of attention to our request. We are prisoners who are returning from the Solovetsky concentration camp because of our poor health. We went there full of energy and good health, and now we are returning as invalids, broken and crippled emotionally and physically. We are asking you to draw your attention to the arbitrary use of power and the violence that reign at the Solovetsky concentration camp in Kemi and in all sections of the concentration camp. It is difficult for a human being even to imagine such terror, tyranny, violence, and lawlessness. When we went there, we could not conceive of such a horror, and now we, crippled ourselves, together with several thousands who are still there, appeal to the ruling center of the Soviet state to curb the terror that reigns there. As though it weren't enough that the Unified State Political Directorate [OGPU] without oversight and due process sends workers and peasants there who are by and large innocent (we are not talking about criminals who deserve to be punished), the former tsarist penal servitude system in comparison to Solovky had 99% more humanity, fairness, and legality. [...] People die like flies, i.e., they die a slow and painful death; we repeat that all this torment and suffering is placed only on the shoulders of the proletariat without money, i.e., on workers who, we repeat, were unfortunate to find themselves in the period of hunger and destruction accompanying the events of the October Revolution, and who committed crimes only to save themselves and their families from death by starvation; they have already borne the punishment for these crimes, and the vast majority of them subsequently chose the path of honest labor. Now because of their past, for whose crime they have already paid, they are fired from their jobs. Yet, the main thing is that the entire weight of this scandalous abuse of power, brute violence, and lawlessness that reign at Solovky and other sections of the OGPU concentration camp is placed on the shoulders of workers and peasants; others, such as counterrevolutionaries, profiteers and so on, have full wallets and have set themselves up and live in clover in the Soviet State, while next to them, in the literal meaning of the word, the penniless proletariat dies from hunger, cold, and back-breaking 14-16 hour days under the tyranny and lawlessness of inmates who are the agents and collaborators of the State Political Directorate [GPU]. If you complain or write anything ("Heaven forbid"), they will frame you for an attempted escape or for something else, and they will shoot you like a dog. They line us up naked and barefoot at 22 degrees below zero and keep us outside for up to an hour. It is difficult to describe all the chaos and terror that is going on in Kemi, Solovky, and the other sections of the concentrations camp. All annual inspections uncover a lot of abuses. But what they discover in comparison to what actually exists is only a part of the horror and abuse of power, which the inspection accidently uncovers. (One example is the following fact, one of a thousand, which is registered in GPU and for which the guilty have been punished: THEY FORCED THE INMATES TO EAT THEIR OWN FECES. "Comrades," if we dare to use this phrase, verify that this is a fact from reality, about which, we repeat, OGPU has the official evidence, and judge for yourself the full extent of effrontery and humiliation in the supervision by those who want to make a career for themselves. [...] We are sure and we hope that in the All-Union Communist Party there are people, as we have been told, who are humane and sympathetic; it is possible, that you might think that it is our imagination, but we swear to you all, by everything that is sacred to us, that this is only one small part of the nightmarish truth, because it makes no sense to make this up. We repeat, and will repeat 100 times, that yes, indeed there are some guilty people, but the majority suffer innocently, as is described above. The word law, according to the law of the GPU concentration camps, does not exist; what does exist is only the autocratic power of petty tyrants, i.e., collaborators, serving time, who have power over life and death. Everything described above is the truth and we, ourselves, who are close to the grave after 3 years in Solovky and Kemi and other sections, are asking you to improve the pathetic, tortured existence of those who are there who languish under the yoke of the OGPU's tyranny, violence, and complete lawlessness....

To this we subscribe: G. Zheleznov, Vinogradov, F. Belinskii.

Dec. 14, 1926

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Christians Arrested by Jewish Bolshviks Are Still Prisoners of Injustice The Sunday Times of London, June 28 1998


by Mark Franchetti Vorkuta


Original Source for This Story Was Found on the Internet, July 2, 1998, at this Link: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/page ... ml?1500530


Stalin's Forgotten Prisoners...

THROUGHOUT his tortuous 10 years of hard labour in Stalin's gulag, Pavel Negretov dreamt of the new life that would begin on the day he finished his sentence for anti-communist activities. Still a young man, he imagined himself starting afresh in Moscow, far from the horrors he had endured. That new life never came. More than half a century later, Negretov remains stranded in Vorkuta, in the Arctic Circle, where he was sent to work in barbaric conditions in the coalmines of Russia's far north. Now 75, he has yet to be granted the residence permit he needs to move with his wife to the Russian capital. Negretov is not alone. Hundreds of former opponents of Stalin's dictatorship, including 250 in Vorkuta, have been left to their hard lives in remote regions to which they were exiled in the 1930s and 1940s. Most have struggled ever since to return to their home towns and villages. Thousands have died of old age without being allowed to resettle. "There are queues of former political prisoners waiting to leave Vorkuta," said Yevgenia Khaidarova, of the local branch of Memorial, a human rights organisation that helps victims of Soviet repression. "The scene is the same all over Russia. These people are caught in limbo, living in a terrible vicious circle - they can't resettle without a propiska [residence permit], which they could get only if they had a flat in the city they wanted to go back to." Those dispatched to the gulag had their flats confiscated by the authorities. With their homes, they lost their right to live in the places where they had grown up with their families. If they were affluent, they could buy a privatised flat. Deprived long ago of any opportunity to establish themselves, however, they are poor. If they moved without an official permit, they would have no legal right to work or to receive vital benefits, including healthcare. Like the overwhelming majority of Russians, they depend on the state to provide them with homes. So they wait in the frozen Arctic, hoping forlornly that one day the state will find them a flat somewhere - anywhere - other than Vorkuta. Isolated from the outside world by inhospitable tundra, 100 miles north of the Arctic Circle and more than 1,000 miles from Moscow, Vorkuta is a place where winter lasts for 10 months and the temperature falls regularly to -40C. It is completely dark for weeks on end. Like the other labour camps scattered across the northern wastes and christened the gulag archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, a camp survivor himself, Vorkuta was uninhabited until geologists found huge coal reserves beneath its frozen earth. Slave labour was the only way to develop the mineral wealth. The first prisoners were sent to Vorkuta in 1931 on a journey that took six months and claimed thousands of lives. They were crammed first into cattle trains, then onto barges along several rivers and completed the last 50 miles on foot. Between 1934 and 1954 2m were sent away to toil in Vorkuta's 80 mines - petty criminals, political opponents of Stalin and the hapless, innocent victims of senseless purges, "guilty" of anything from simply being related to a foreigner to having turned up late for work. "My first year and a half was the hardest," recalled Negretov, who arrived in Vorkuta at the height of winter after being arrested in Ukraine in 1946 for collaborating with an anti-communist group. "I thought I had landed in hell. "There were three shifts of eight hours. We were escorted at gunpoint in the snow from our barracks to the mines. It was always pitch-dark, with freezing temperatures, but the wind was the most terrible thing. I used to wonder why my parents had brought me into this world. I was skin and bones, and covered in ulcers." The inmates slept in pairs to keep warm, using one jacket as a mattress on the floor and the other as a blanket. "We kept our boots under our heads to stop other prisoners from stealing them, and pulled our trousers down over our feet to prevent frostbite," Negretov said. "Every morning an angry corporal would wake us up, shouting. That was the worst time - waking up to another day, exhausted." Every day in Vorkuta, prisoners starved, froze to death, were executed by guards or were killed digging in the mines. Memorial, which was headed by Andrei Sakharov, the dissident nuclear physicist, until his death in 1989, has obtained access to archives in an attempt to calculate the toll. The initial estimate is half a million dead. Today, the graves are marked by numbered, nameless wooden crosses in seven cemeteries that surround a city of 180,000 people built on bones. "I have been here 52 years, and I have dreamt all my life of living in a city like Moscow or St Petersburg," said Negretov. "Our state has no conscience. It has forgotten about us and the Russian people as a whole. We have no democracy, only greed for more power. And who is Boris Yeltsin? A former Communist party boss. Power has not changed hands." Since the advent of glasnost, the Russian government has rehabilitated most former zeks - as gulag inmates were known - formally recognising them as innocent victims of repression and providing them with minimal compensation and the right to a proper pension. But it has done little to help them resettle. Negretov fought until 1995 to be rehabilitated. He was awarded

Wow, all those vague psuedo-intellectual articles really convinced me! I think I'll go start a pogrom in my very own neighborhood!

Uh, oh, my senator here in Wisconsin is Jewish! So I guess our capitalist American republic is also an evil Jewish conspiracy!

Oh, holy hell. Do you know what just occurred to me? I'm a Catholic! My very CHURCH was started by Jewish people! Well, fuсk me. I'm just going to have to commit suicide now.

Goodbye, cruel Jewish world!

Its pathetic to deny the facts. The fact is that, jews commited genocide against Russia, Ukraine. And should with every right, claim rightfully astronomical payments from Israel and jewish community for the genocide commited from jews to Russia and Ukraine. To begin with, take all possesions from jews in Russia, like Abramovitch.

Oh, obviously. You have me 100% convinced. Because there were a few Jewish people involved in Bolshevism, all Jews are responsible and ought to pay the former USSR all their money. And then die.

Aw, dammit, but Christians carried out genocide against the native peoples of the Americas! And obviously all Christians living today, no matter what their heritage, even, are responsible for it. So, I guess we'd better take all their money and kill them, too. Better make your peace with your God quickly, kiddo. The Hague is on it's way to your house.

Also, dumbаss, do you know the definition of "genocide?" I'm pretty sure there are still a WHOLE FRIKKIN' LOT OF ethnic Russians running around.

Psycho.

Idiots cant be convinced about facts. The fact is that the genocide against Russias and Ukraines pravoslavs were commited by mostly jews. Russia and Ukraine has every right to claim astronomical payment from jewish community for this. Only antirussian monsters dont care about this.

I don't buy the premise of your argument, but even if it were true and not total bigoted BS, people are not responsible legally nor morally for the crimes of their ancestors. To say that they are is to delve into complete and utter ridiculousness. My dad's family is German; am I to try to atone for WWII? Especially when you throw in the fact that my grandparents and great-grandparents weren't even Nazis? I'm going with "no" on this one. My responsibility, as the rest of the world's responsibility, is only to learn from the tragedies of the past and fight not to repeat them. If your grandfather robbed my grandfather, are you supposed to go to jail for it?

I realize no amount of REALITY is going to convince you that the crimes of the Soviet Union are not some evil Jewish plot (I suppose it does NO good whatsoever to point out that neither Lenin nor Stalin were Jewish? Or even that Stalin was a Christian theology student before going into politics?) but I am curious what twist in your mind suggests that Jewish people should be expected to atone for ancestral crimes, but not other ethnic/religious groups. Why only Jewish people in Russia? Why not expect all Europeans in the Americas to give up all property to Native Americans, to make up for the systematic exermination of many tribes? Or all Japanese people living in China to give up all property to the Chinese, to make up for Nanking?

And once again, not to pick nits, but I don't think you understand the word "genocide." Genocide is the systematic effort to wipe out a race or ethnic group. I can come up with no historian who would suggest that the Soviet Union, even at the height of any terror, was attempting to wipe out Russians. You can make a case for genocide in the case of some of the non-Russian ethnic groups that Stalin dislocated, but certainly not in the case of ethnic Russians. Genocide is mass murder, but mass murder is not always genocide. The Communist campaign against the Orthodox church is also not an example of genocide. It is an example of repression, often using techniques of terror. An effort to exterminate a religion is not necessarily an effort to exterminate all members of that faith; the idea was to stop people from practicing and propagating the religion, not to kill anyone who had ever crossed him or herself.

Your argument makes no sense on any level. I suggest that you consider long and hard the prejudices and lapses in logic that have led you to this conclusion.

The german history is full of genocide, towards russia and other countries. Many jews promots ustasas genocide towards pravoslav serbs, most germans hate pravoslavs, the satanistic hate towards serbs (and they dont care much for russians either) from germans is amazing, most germans celebrate ustasa (croatian nazis). Many jews wants money for suffering in concentration camps. It is only fair, that jewish community pays astronomicaly for the suffering they have caused Russia, Ukraine and other countries. Why shouldnt indians get payed and a lot of their land given back, it is only fair.

Sorry to but in but.... GO ЛИНДЗИ GO! ! ! :P

The new Tzar, Alexander III, was so infuriated with the Jews that he issued the following statement which is quoted from the Encyclopedia Britannica, page 76, Vol. 2, 1947 edition:

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"For some time the government has given its attention to the Jews and to the* relations the rest of the inhabitants of the empire, with a view of ascertaining the sad condition of the Christian inhabitants brought about by the conduct of the Jews in business matters. During the last 20 years, the Jews have gradually possessed themselves of not only every trade and business in all its branches, but also of a great part of the land by buying or farming it. With few exceptions, they have as a body devoted their attention, not to enriching or benefiting the country, but to defrauding, by their wiles, its inhabitants, and particularly its poor inhabitants ! This conduct of theirs has called forth protests on the part of the people, as manifested in acts of violence. The government, while on the one hand doing its best to put down the disturbances and to deliver the Jews from oppression and slaughter, has also on the other hand, thought it a matter of urgency and justice to adopt stringent measures in order to put an end to the oppression practiced by the Jews on the inhabitants, and to free the country from their malpractices, which were. as is known, the cause of the agitation."

Quote from "Jewish Communal Register", 1918:

Title: Schiff Finances Enemies Of Czar

Kehillah (Jewish Community) of New York City 356 SECOND AVENUE New York City

"Schiff, Jacob Henry, was born In 1847, at Frankfort on-the- Maine, Germany. He received his education in the schools of Frankfort. In 1866 he came to America, where he settled in New York City. Here, he joined the staff of a banking house. In 11173, he returned to Europe where he made connections with some of the chief German banking horses. Upon returning to the United States, he entered the banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb and Company, New York of which he later became the head. His firm became the financial reconstructors of the Union Pacific Railroad, and since then is strongly interested in American railroad"

Mr. Schiff's principle of "community of interests among the chief railway combinations led to the formation of the Northern Securities Company, thus suppressing ruinous competition. The firm of Kuhn, Loeb & Co.. floated the large Japanese War Loans of 1904-5, thus making possible the Japanese victory over Russia Mr. Schiff is director of numerous financial companies, among them the Central Trust company. Western Union Telegraph Company, the Wells Fargo Express Company. He has been severer time vice-president of the New York Chamber of Commerce.

Mr. Schiff has always used his wealth and his influence in the best interests of his people. He financed the enemies of autocratic Russia and used his financial influence to keep Russia from the money market of the United States.

When last year, Mr. Schiff celebrated his seventieth birthday, all the factions of Jewry in the United States and elsewhere united in paying tribute to him.

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Hey Eagle, have you looked under your bed lately? THEY may be under there waiting to get you!
Seriously dude, if you are christian I think you need to go spend a lot of time in confession then work on living a life that spreads the love and kindness that Christ preached instead of the BS and hate you're puking up on this forum.

Jb, pathetic comments aint gonna help the russian people getting paid from the jewish community the money they have every right to claim. Jews have commited genocide towards Russia and Ukraine, and should get paid astronomicaly by the jewish community.

If only Mike was back now. Sure, he could be a pain in the arse, but at least he knew how to deal with these kinds of people. Or couldn't bad manners and VendingMachine come to the rescue here?

I am not gonna help, but then I am not gonna interfere, either. I do not think that the Jews were the end-all evil for the Russians (the Ukrainians, etc), the Russians have always been pretty keen on wiping off old scores by wiping off old foes, especially when the state goes for an iron hand. After all, this phrase has existed for ages: "Нам, русским, хлеба не надо: мы друг друга едим и тем сыты бываем."

On the other hand, I do think that a bit of Jewish bashing is in order. How many Jews were killed by the Germans? And how many Byelorussians? And who is receiving the compensation now? And who were financing Germany in the thirties? And always start that stink about "anti-Semitism" when their dirty deeds get to be scrutinized? While having been conducting unequivocally racist and segregationist policies for decades?

I think that im really scared, ive seen hundreds upon thousands of people spreading this type of information around the internet, and then a thousand more people are better informed. Revolutions start everday because of this. Who ever said pen is mightier than the sword was wrong, it was cutting and pasting articles!!! cutting and pasting is mightier than the sword. all it takes its about 100 typical internet users who see the post and say "What the H@ll??? thats like 20 pages long im not reading that" and then they click away from it and the revoloution has begun!!!!

MASTER RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!

Chrisd324, your comments is typicall for ignorant pro/american. The genocide, commited by jews towars Russia and Ukraine is nothing that is written about in (specially) in western media. Its no wonder that the jews together with americans, are the most hated in the world.

yes

I'm sorry you feel that way, bad manners. In fact, I would've thought an educated person such as yourself wouldn't partake in primitive 'Jews-bashing'. Could you tel me more about the genocide in Belarus? AFAIK, the Germans only exterminated the jews in Belarus.

well put, very well said! now if you dont mind i'm going back to answering all statements with yes or no.


No

Ah, yes, bad manners. Clearly the solution here is Jew-bashing. Jew-bashing has been hugely sucessful historically in solving countries' problems. I mean, all that killing of Jewish people during the Black Plague, it cleared the disease right up! And the German concentration camps totally solved all of Germany's economic problems! And Russia's pogroms...oh, wait, I just remembered. Actually, it didn't solve anything, it just led to a bunch of asshоles killing a bunch of innocent Jews. My mistake!

And we can just jump over the whole part of the debate where you and Eagle accuse me of being a crazy American Zionism-supporter, etc., because I do think that a few Jewish leaders have done plenty of nasty stuff, historically and in the present. But here's the thing - I'm not a bigoted lunatic, so I'm not about to say that all Jews are responsible for the actions of, say, Sharon. Or Trotsky. (I don't even know if Trotsky was Jewish, honestly, and I don't care, but Eagle seems to be basing a huge part of his accusations on it.) The suggestion that an entire ethnic group should be held responsible for the actions of a few of its members is ludicrous. I'm of Western European Catholic descent, but I'm not to blame for what my ancestors did on the Crusades. You're a Russian, bad manners, but you shouldn't be blamed for Stalin's relocation of the Crimean Tatars. So why in the hеll are you people suggesting that all Jews share some collective guilt?

(Not to mention that I still don't understand why Eagle thinks the Russian Revolution was a Jewish plot. I'm sorry, Eagle...your conspiracy theory makes no sense.)

There are bad Jewish people!

There are also bad people of every single other ethnic, social, religious and racial group on the entire planet!

Clearly, the only way of ending human evil is true genocide, wiping out the entire human race in one fell swoop. But since that's not an option, stop blaming entire groups of people for what individual members of those groups did. It's monumentally stupid to do so.

Jesus.

"Jesus" NO "JESUS FREAKIN CHRIST" YES