Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
Well done for having researched who died. So there were no people from Pridnestrovie that died? Ukrainian media said there were several....

As for Condemnation of Odessa.
Well, did you see the RT feature where they asked Americans where Ukraine was on the map? The most common answer was roughly in the region of Kazakhstan or Central Siberia. Others quite happily put it in India or Turkey.
As for Odessa - they probably think it's the name of a porn star or a restaurant. Or they recognise it from the title of a Robert Ludlum book.
Ignorance of geography, history and other cultures is really helpful in a country where the government wants to mislead the population in the way that the US does. Ten years into the Afghanistan, most Americans can't find Afghanistan on a map, or name even one neighbouring country. No doubt there'll soon be a new school shooting or dramatic court case to distract Americans.

So few Americans are open minded like yourself, and prepared to learn something new without projecting prejudice and propaganda onto it.

So no, the US won't offer condoleances. EU hasn't either, and at least in the EU people know where Odessa is located. The Swedish foreign minister tweeted something that suggested the burning was Russia's fault. He hates Russia with a vengeance that is bordering on obsession and has allegedly been in the pay of the CIA. William Hague (UK) is another serious Russia antagonist and also commented something snidy instead of offering condoleances.
Meanwhile apparently the UA embassy in Moscow received tons of flowers which they ignored!
The Ukrainian media released that news before the investigation was completed. They were all Ukrainians.
LOL @ porn star or restaurant! I needed something to make me feel better and that did. =) It's just that everything I was taught to hate, the US keeps doing. It's almost funny. Wherever I live I'll always have a house to live in but I feel homeless. Have you ever heard "Believe In Nothing" by the band "All That Remains"? It's how I feel. Well, maybe it's easy for older generations to hate on other countries but it's not easy for me or my friends. It's just pointless and I haven't seen anything in Russia to hate. Every time I watch a youtube about life in Russia, I wish I was there and the May Day parade was amazing. I'll be watching on May 9th too since it was the Red Army that saved everyone from the Nazis. The whole world should celebrate that.

Well, maybe old people in the US are all happy about living in a world full of violence and fear but that's not what we want for our future. And some of us don't want our kids growing up in a country they can't believe in.
So yeah, being open-minded is very important right now to save the world and make it a better place... for ourselves and for our kids, when we have them. I don't know anybody in my generation that isn't concerned about that.

And yeah, I haven't seen the UK response but I did see what Carl Bildt posted. He's no better than the Right Sector animals that slaughtered those people. It's 19:25 here now so the US has less than 5 hours left to issue a strong condemnation of the slaughter and offer their condolences to the families and friends of the victims. It's a life-changing event for us and we won't give them any more time.

Oh, and about the location of Ukraine, lol. I'm in a private school and our courses are obviously more advanced than what the public schools offer. I know some public school graduates couldn't even find Vermont in the US on a map, lol! I know something about every country on the European continent and can easily locate them on a map. I also know the history for some of the countries like Russia, India, the UK, China, Germany, Slovenia, Italy, and the Roman Empire. But the country I know the most history of is Russia and I've studied the topography too. I like really cold climates and especially countries that have lots of climate variety and hey, Russia has polar bears and palm trees! =D

Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
Ukraine crisis: death by fire in Odessa as country suffers bloodiest day since the revolution - Telegraph

At this point, an enraged crowd decided to march on the House of Trade Unions, located beside a park where pro-Russians had set up a small protest camp some weeks ago.

It occurs to me, it might be that they confused some peaceful protesters for those aggressive bastards with bats that they had previously been attacked by. If so, that's really a horrible tragedy, unbelievable by its awfulness and ridiculousness --- innocent people died while the real fascist bastards in masks with bats just ran away after committing the attack and killing some of the pro-Maidan activists.

Though, the whole picture is still very vague, and it would be great if the entire timeline of the Friday events was finally unveiled.
I'm very happy to see that you're open-minded about the events. That deserves rep. And I'll be watching for more news on the investigations since there's so many unanswered questions. But I still have very serious issues with anyone that would set someone on fire and beat them to death when they try to escape. Even when one of my friends was slammed, I confronted the dude and demanded to know what was going down before I slammed him. That's the honorable way to fight.
They shoulda found a way to break into the building and confront them. Imo, torching and beating people isn't an option for humans.
But it's already 20:15 and Saturday night so I gotta bounce.