Thread: The end.

Originally Posted by Serge_spb

15.12.2014 Monday
Time 19 hundreed.
Somewhere in Russia...

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After everything Russia's been through in your lifetime, is this really what you call "the end"?
I realise it's scary and incredibly frustrating for normal people whose money lose their value.
Russia hasn't been treated fairly by the West at all. But those really suffering are those in Eastern Ukraine.

Seriously, Serge, in 3 years time, you will be on the beach in Crimea, drinking Pina Colada with a very expensive electronic gadget in your hand, and the Russian flag over your head. You will smile as you remember this. That's my prediction.

The sad part of this is, where will a certain neighbouring brother country of Russia be? They'll be on their knees in debt to the IMF, Washington and exploited by the EU. That's the real tragedy in this.

So don't lose track of the bigger picture.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?
Now everyone's children get a tiny taste of what people went through in Russia, in the 1990s.

Originally Posted by Hanna

After everything Russia's been through in your lifetime, is this really what you call "the end"?
I realise it's scary and incredibly frustrating for normal people whose money lose their value.
Russia hasn't been treated fairly by the West at all. But those really suffering are those in Eastern Ukraine.

Seriously, Serge, in 3 years time, you will be on the beach in Crimea, drinking Pina Colada with a very expensive electronic gadget in your hand, and the Russian flag over your head. You will smile as you remember this. That's my prediction.

The sad part of this is, where will a certain neighbouring brother country of Russia be? They'll be on their knees in debt to the IMF, Washington and exploited by the EU. That's the real tragedy in this.

So don't lose track of the bigger picture.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?
Now everyone's children get a tiny taste of what people went through in Russia, in the 1990s.

Have you read the thread?

Крупные продавцы одежды приостановили поставку в Россию

Крупные продавцы одежды приостановили поставку в Россию. Причина – валютный кризис и высокий курс доллара и евро. Магазины ждут отскока и не исключают на это время арендных каникул



Как сообщает газета «Ведомости», среди компаний, приостановивших поставки в магазины, такие крупные игроки, как Inditex (Zara, Oysho и Bershka), а также BNS Group, управляющая в России сетями Calvin Klein, Armani Jeans, Michael Kors и TopShop. Гендиректор последней рассказал, что компания взяла паузу до конца 2014 – первой недели 2015 года. Исключением стали бренды fast fashion, распространяемые через TopShop. По ним поставки продолжаются, хотя их объемы сократились.

«Цена закупки виртуальная, никто не знает, по какому курсу считать», – поясняет ретейлер, указав, что рисков пока нет – в Азии поставщиков много, и в случае необходимости может подстраховать Узбекистан.

Sela в настоящее время ведет переговоры по ценам, а обувная сеть Zenden утверждает, что некоторые ретейлеры отказываются от уже заказанного товара в Китае. По словам еще одного источника «Ведомостей», во время ноябрьского валютного скачка продавцы подняли цены на 23% в нижнем ценовом сегменте и это обрушило продажи. «Пришлось вернуться к прежней цене», – объяснил он.

Продавцы по разному пытаются решить вопрос с арендой. В регионах они просят сети об арендных каникулах, а в Москве компания Immofinanz (управляет ТРЦ «Золотой Вавилон» и «Гудзон») предложила временное снижение арендных платежей на индивидуальной основе, чтобы помочь сократить затраты из-за девальвации рубля.

В следующих сезонах потребители столкнутся со «стилевым однообразием» и сокращением количества товара по мере увеличения размера, говорит управляющий директор Esper Group Дарья Ядерная. Zenden сократила закупку обуви на весну/лето 2015 года на 20% пар. BNS Group скорректирует объемы поставок «как минимум пропорционально изменению валютного курса», говорит ее генеральный директор Денис .Богатырев. «Такого изобилия и вариативности, как раньше, в 2015 году не будет», – считает он.

Крупные продавцы одежды приостановили поставку - РБК

Originally Posted by Serge_spb

В следующих сезонах потребители столкнутся со «стилевым однообразием» и сокращением количества товара по мере увеличения размера, говорит управляющий директор Esper Group Дарья Ядерная.

Russia would finally find the art of online purchases. Lot's of things to chose from and cheaper than in retail stores.

Originally Posted by hddscan

Perhaps you just need to accept that you've been brainfooked by *neo-Soviet /Kremlin media* and the reality is not as they told you.

I fixed that for you.

I'm anti-West as they come but, woooooo, guess what, I can acknowledge the propaganda the Kremlin dishes out. You are lied to over and over so guess what that makes you, when you keep believing it? Putinboots and company have ****** Russia over and the country is not sustaining itself. There have been no plans or policies to sustain itself in case of a downturn in the major industries like the oil/gas sector. Western countries are not sustaining either but no one has confidence in the ruble. It's not a world-wide currency. Russia is not importing much other than a few resources/goods. Corruption is rampant. There are plenty of brainwashed zombies though that won't criticize the government to any real signficant extent. Even when the country is collapsing, there will still be citizens claiming the US boogyman did something. Yes, the US and other western nations do pull strings but for Russia's economy, at face value, that is on the government for having no economic policy that can sustain downturns. Not to mention the country giving itself to China, most recently. Talk about gullible... It's a real shame.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

I'm anti-West as they come

I'm sorry but I can't agree with you on that or maybe you hide it very well.
Moreover the way you present your information sources show that you are always getting one side of the story, which means you are not operating with facts but with propaganda only

Originally Posted by 14Russian

You are lied to over and over

Hmm, let's face the facts, shall we?
You asked to confirm where Putin says that he takes responsibility, I gave you that and please note that information sources you read did not give you that information i.e. they lied to you.
Now you still insist that I'm being lied to over and over but in reality it's the other way around. I guess that makes you what? Harperbot?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

There have been no plans or policies to sustain itself in case of a downturn in the major industries like the oil/gas sector.

True, and this is completely and entirely fault of Russian government - Putin's government and Yeltsin's and Medvedev's.
Although I finally see something good happening about that not that it is Putin's desire but rather inevitability of the situation.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Western countries are not sustaining either but no one has confidence in the ruble. It's not a world-wide currency.

Do I need to care about that? And why?
BTW I have no plans to keep my earnings in Canadian dollar and I bet I'm not alone. Does it make Canadian currency unimportant?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Even when the country is collapsing, there will still be citizens claiming the US boogyman did something.

Hold to that thought
Now go and read all those precious MSM you've been referring to.
You'll find that they all claim loud and ambitious that the sanctions are working and Russian economy is hurt because of that.
So what is it? Do they work or do they not? You can't have it both ways.