Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
Major opinion shifts, in the US and Congress, on NSA surveillance and privacy | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Poll shows that for the first time since 9/11, more Americans are worried about civil liberties than terrorism.

From article:

"Overall, 47% say their greater concern about government anti-terrorism policies is that they have gone too far in restricting the average person's civil liberties, while 35% say they are more concerned that policies have not gone far enough to protect the country. This is the first time in Pew Research polling that more have expressed concern over civil liberties than protection from terrorism since the question was first asked in 2004."

Could Americans be starting to wake up at long last? (I mean, apart from you, Deborski, lol!)
Terrorism is just a bogeyman and an excuse for starting wars, spying on citizens and much more.

The UK had IRA who killed lots of people, Spain had ETA,Germany had RAF, Russia has Dagestan/Chechnya Etc!!

None flipped out like the USA did over 9/11.
And guess what; IRA agreed to a peace treaty, ETA voluntarily put down their arms, the RAF members got old and decided they had enough of fighting the system and Chechnya did --- whatever they did -- but at least they stopped killing regular Russians.

There is no need to turn the whole world upside down, start wars and become Big Brother from 1984 just because of one terrorist attack!

Although I'm no conspiracy theorist it's certainly INTERESTING to note that 9/11 gave the US government and top corporations carte blanche to start wars, start snooping, sell weapons like there's no tomorrow, create a whole privately employed army in the Middle East, start the drone programme and what not.
Reminds me of a Ludlum novel I read many years ago, where private weapons/security interests set off a bunch of disasters, to turn the whole planet into a Big Brother states so they could rake in the profits from it. To many of thew private corporations in the USA, Osama bin Laden is the best thing that ever happened to their balance sheets.

Quote Originally Posted by Doomer View Post
That's a little bit too much of the black paint
How many unarmed US citizens did the US killed willingly?
The point is: They don't CARE who dies as they try to kill "terrorists".
And besides, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighters. The people they are killing are in most cases religious people who also happen to be anti-imperialist and supporters of Islam in their countries. Why should they deserve to die for that?
If they have to die, let their own governments take care of it; it's nothing to do with the USA.

But for some reason the USA reckons it's entitled to go in anywhere it likes and kill off people it doesn't like. It's revolting.
One day Yemen, the next day...... your country or mine!!!

The USA is totally out of control. Like a rapist who thinks he's entitled to sleep with any woman he likes, and whoever doesn't accommodates gets beaten up, or even killed. That's a good allegory of the behaviour of the USA in the Middle East, East Asia and South America over the last half century!

Quote Originally Posted by Doomer View Post
CPUs of many computers in the world are made in the USA
China doesn't have much of technology to produce competitive stuff on their own
Last I heard, most of the components for CPUs were made in China, Taiwan.... S. Korea, Israel... Japan