Thread: Crimea joining the Russian Federation and its implications?

Originally Posted by Crocodile

Sorry for the late response, I just recently got back to the MR and I have a lot of reading to do to catch up with you guys..

Haha you are very polite, just jump in.

I have been in a bit of a vacuum recently unfortunately due to having been in a car accident, so I also have alot of catching up to do!

It seems to me that most nations can point to a time in their history when they wronged others and there comes a time when people need to try and put that behind them rather than letting that rule every future decision.

Doesn't the result of the referendum speak for itself? Surely that is a democratic action and therefore uniting a democratic result.

I'm still confused why a country like the US, who has a rather brutal history itself and rarely democratically decide anything, have any right in speaking out against anything.

Originally Posted by Twonkybot

I'm still confused why a country like the US, who has a rather brutal history itself and rarely democratically decide anything, have any right in speaking out against anything.

Well my friend, you haven't watched enough BBC, or CNN, lately, obviously!
And you need to listen to what William Hague and Catherine Ashton have to say.
If the USA says it's right, then it's right, never mind precedence, history or common logic.
Pick up the Daily Telegraph, it will explain all......

Originally Posted by Twonkybot

I have been in a bit of a vacuum recently unfortunately due to having been in a car accident, so I also have alot of catching up to do!

It seems to me that most nations can point to a time in their history when they wronged others and there comes a time when people need to try and put that behind them rather than letting that rule every future decision.

Doesn't the result of the referendum speak for itself? Surely that is a democratic action and therefore uniting a democratic result.

I'm still confused why a country like the US, who has a rather brutal history itself and rarely democratically decide anything, have any right in speaking out against anything.

I hope the accident wasn't too serious.
Btw, I only added the history of Crimean Tatar raids into Russia as a possible explanation for the distrust that led to their exile.

This is interesting. The shots that killed both the pro-Russian and the Ukrainian soldier in Crimea yesterday were fired from the same location by a sniper. They also believe that the sniper's a member of the "Right Sector". *cough cough* the snipers on the Maidan *cough cough*.
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Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

Btw, I only added the history of Crimean Tatar raids into Russia as a possible explanation for the distrust that led to their exile.

Hmm.. I wouldn't immediately agree with that. The Soviet regime at some point in its time used to displace peoples for various reasons, so the real reason remains uknown.

Population transfer in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect the historical relationship [of several hunded years ago] between the Crimean Tatars and Slavs were probably the least important in the list of the reasons.
Besides, what nation have never traded slaves in their history?

Culturally, the Crimean Tatars strongly associate themselves with Turkey, so if given a chance they would do anything they could to become part of Turkey again.