Ok agreed, but a just society doesn't allow it. I guess the question is: Can a just society exist?" That's another debate.Originally Posted by bad manners
I don't agree that right and wrong are subjective, but that is also another debate. I agree that groups do violate rights and laws support them. That goes back to the "just society" question.Originally Posted by bad manners
Maybe I just disagree with the term "rights" here. Just because society has the ability to do something an individual cannot, doesn't mean it has a right to. We are going in circles on this one.Originally Posted by bad manners
It is not utopian any more than any other govermental system is considered utopian. It is a specific method of governing, not simply a term. Like democracy, communism, or a dictatorship. I don't think either of up understand eachother's view point on this subject. Kinda kills the debate.Originally Posted by bad manners
That's what I said. However, that goverment is based on human rights. Not majority rule.Originally Posted by bad manners
Because the officer has to have just cause to pull you over. They can't just pull you over and detain people willy nilly.Originally Posted by bad manners
I disagree, it'll be exactly the same. The problem, as you are pointing out, is enforcement of "proper interaction".Originally Posted by bad manners
I guess this debate isn't going to go much further here. I'm satisfied with much of it, anyway. Fell free to post final comments or message me if you want but I guess the aguing is over.
Tim.