I was refering to rights in my statement you quoted. A group cannot violate anyone else's rights in the same way an individual cannot.Originally Posted by bad manners
One always has rights. Regardless of whether or not they can, or choose to excercise them.
Groups are not seperate entities from individuals. Groups are made up of individuals and groups exist only because individuals have the right to associate with others.
A criminal is a different situation. When you violate the rights of others (commit a crime) you forfeit some of your rights (freedom, or even your life in the case of capital punishment).