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    I'd say that desensitisation to profane language is a good thing, as it doesn't make any sense to be offended by a single word.
    Of course, the problem with "desensitization" is that obscenities stop being obscene if everyone in society agrees not to be offended by them!

    Thus, if I hit my fingers with a hammer, it is far more emotionally satisfying to yell "Oh f*ck!" than "Oh, fudge!"

    But if every English speaker became 100% "desensitized" to "f*ck*, and parents stopped scolding their children for using this word, then "Oh, f*ck" would lose its power -- it would no longer give "cathartic satisfaction" after you've hit your finger with a hammer.

    And yelling "F*ck me harder! F*ck me deeper!" during sex would sound the same as "Make love to me with more vigor and speed!"))))

    P.S. In today's English, the phrase "to make love" is (always) a euphemism for "to have sex" or "to f*ck," and really has no other meaning.

    But in 19th-century English, and perhaps even until the 1940s or 1950s, "to make love (to someone)" meant the same thing as "to flirt with" or "to court."

    Thus, in older literature (before the WW2 era), it was quite normal to see a woman asking a man: "Sir, are you making love to me?"

    Which, then, was understood to signify "Excuse me, Mister, it sounds as though you are trying to be flirtatious -- is this your intent, or have I misunderstood you?"
    But nowadays it can only mean "Are you putting your penis in my vagina?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    Of course, the problem with "desensitization" is that obscenities stop being obscene if everyone in society agrees not to be offended by them!

    Thus, if I hit my fingers with a hammer, it is far more emotionally satisfying to yell "Oh f*ck!" than "Oh, fudge!"

    But if every English speaker became 100% "desensitized" to "f*ck*, and parents stopped scolding their children for using this word, then "Oh, f*ck" would lose its power -- it would no longer give "cathartic satisfaction" after you've hit your finger with a hammer.
    Hmm. You make a good point here. Well, I personally don't feel any offence at swear words and I still feel the same cathartic satisfaction by saying them. Maybe it's just the knowledge that someone, somewhere in the world, would cover their ears in shock upon hearing my outburst. In which case, to all you people who are needlessly offended by certain words: I extend my thanks to you. Your self-righteous indignation has a positive impact on my well-being, and for that I am truly grateful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    And yelling "F*ck me harder! F*ck me deeper!" during sex would sound the same as "Make love to me with more vigor and speed!"))))
    I'm going to have to try that line next time I have sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    Thus, in older literature (before the WW2 era), it was quite normal to see a woman asking a man: "Sir, are you making love to me?"

    Which, then, was understood to signify "Excuse me, Mister, it sounds as though you are trying to be flirtatious -- is this your intent, or have I misunderstood you?"
    But nowadays it can only mean "Are you putting your penis in my vagina?"
    Haha, that reminds me of this:

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    Well, I personally don't feel any offence at swear words and I still feel the same cathartic satisfaction by saying them.
    Однажды я готовил обед у сестры и глубоко разрезал палец ножом. Конечно, очень хотелось пользоваться матом, однако маленький племянник Алекс (ему исполнится четыре года в марте) сидел за столом в кухне, играя с пластилином. И думал я "Хоть бы мальчика не было в кухне, чтобы я смог устно ругаться с G*ddamn f*ck sh*t c*cksucker son-of-a-b*tch!!" -- а вместо этого, я по-громко шептал, "Oh, shoot, darn it!", чтобы притягать внимание сестры. Она, видя что со мной, пластырь из ванной принесла, и всё было нормально, а племмяник всё задавал-задавал нам вопросы: "Папочка, пачему Джадже Робу пластир нужен?" -- "Потому что он разрезал палец. Пластырь сделает всё лучше." -- "Ладно, а пачему Джаджя Роб разрезал палиц?" -- "Потому что он был неосторожен с ножом." -- "А пачему?"

    (Once I was cooking dinner at my sister's house and cut my finger deeply with a knife. Naturally, I very much wanted to use some cuss words; however, my little nephew Alex -- who will turn four in March -- was sitting at the kitchen table, playing with clay. And I thought, "I really wish he weren't in the kitchen, so that I could say G*ddamn f*ck sh*t c*cksucker son-of-a-b*tch out loud!" But instead, I loudly whispered, "Oh, shoot, darn it!" in order to get my sister's attention. Seeing what was the matter with me, she brought a bandage from the bathroom, and everything was okay, but my nephew kept on asking us question after question: "Daddy, why Onka Rob needs a bandid?" -- "Because he cut his finger. The bandage will make it better." -- "Oh. Why Onka Rob cut his finga?" -- "Because he was not being careful with the knife." -- "Why?")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    Однажды я готовил обед у сестры и глубоко порезал палец/порезался. Конечно, очень захотелось выругаться, однако маленький племянник Алекс (ему исполнится четыре года в марте) сидел на кухне за столом, играя с пластилином. И подумал я "хорошо бы мальчика не было здесь, чтобы я смог громко выругаться G*ddamn f*ck sh*t c*cksucker son-of-a-b*tch!!". А вместо этого мне пришлось громко прошептать: "Oh, shoot, darn it!", стараясь привлечь внимание сестры. Она, увидев, что со мной, принесла пластырь из ванной, и всё закончилось хорошо. А мой племянник всё задавал и задавал нам вопросы: "Папочка, пачиму Джадже Робу пластир нужен?" -- "Потому что он порезал палец. Пластырь всё поправит." -- "Ладно, а пачиму Джаджя Роб разрезал палиц?" -- "Потому что он был неосторожен с ножом." -- "А пачиму?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    Однажды я готовил обед у сестры и сильно порезал палец ножом. Конечно, очень хотелось ругнуться матом, однако маленький племянник Алекс (ему исполнится четыре года в марте) сидел за столом в кухне, играя с пластилином. И я думал "Хоть бы мальчика не было в кухне, чтобы я смог выругаться со словами G*ddamn f*ck sh*t c*cksucker son-of-a-b*tch!![/I]" -- а вместо этого, я громко шептал, "Oh, shoot, darn it!", чтобы привлечь внимание сестры. Она, видя что со мной, пластырь из ванной принесла, и всё было нормально, а племмяник всё задавал и задавал нам вопросы: "Папочка, пачему Джадже Робу пластир нужен?" -- "Потому что он порезал палец. Пластырь сделает всё лучше." -- "Ладно, а пачему Джаджя Роб разрезал палиц?" -- "Потому что он был неосторожен с ножом." -- "А пачему?"

    (Once I was cooking dinner at my sister's house and cut my finger deeply with a knife. Naturally, I very much wanted to use some cuss words; however, my little nephew Alex -- who will turn four in March -- was sitting at the kitchen table, playing with clay. And I thought, "I really wish he weren't in the kitchen, so that I could say G*ddamn f*ck sh*t c*cksucker son-of-a-b*tch out loud!" But instead, I loudly whispered, "Oh, shoot, darn it!" in order to get my sister's attention. Seeing what was the matter with me, she brought a bandage from the bathroom, and every was okay, but my nephew kept on asking us question after question: "Daddy, why Onka Rob needs a bandid?" -- "Because he cut his finger. The bandage will make it better." -- "Oh. Why Onka Rob cut his finga?" -- "Because he was not being careful with the knife." -- "Why?")
    Note: разрезал палец = cut in half, so it's better to say "порезал палец" (i hope this was the case)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsms View Post
    Note: разрезал палец = cut in half, so it's better to say "порезал палец" (i hope this was the case)
    Excuse me for a second...

    G*ddamn *ss-licking sh*t-stained motherf*cking c*cksucking c*nt-face son-of-a-b*tch bloody tampon русские глагольные приставки!
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