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    Sentence Structure and Что

    Ok, just a quick question, in russian, how exactly does general sentence structure work? I have seen a lot of subject-verb-object, but occasionally I have seen subject-object-verb and occasionally object-verb-subject. Compared to english, I'm a little lost...

    also the use of "что" kinda throws me off, such as the sentence "Антон сказал, что он сегодня придёт играть в шахматы" (it's hard for me to get a rough translation other than "Anton said, what he came today to play chess" which is obviously a little close to right, but not quite there.

    Any ideas?

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    Re: Sentence Structure and Что

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrm
    Ok, just a quick question, in russian, how exactly does general sentence structure work? I have seen a lot of subject-verb-object, but occasionally I have seen subject-object-verb and occasionally object-verb-subject. Compared to english, I'm a little lost...
    In Russian, the sentence structure is VERY free. I don't think you need to learn theory here.

    also the use of "что" kinda throws me off, such as the sentence "Антон сказал, что он сегодня придёт играть в шахматы" (it's hard for me to get a rough translation other than "Anton said, [s:172gvaag]what[/s:172gvaag] he came today to play chess" which is obviously a little close to right, but not quite there.
    Anton said that he'll come today to play chess.

    As far I as understand, in proper English it should be "Anton said that he'd come today to play chess". But in Russian we say "he said (past tense) that ... [we can use the future tense here]".
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

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    Re: Sentence Structure and Что

    Mmmk, gonna hijack this thread - I appreciate the answer, btw Оля. However, I have a new question.

    Я не покупаю книгу вчера = I did not buy the book yesterday (according to google)

    It has a perfective prefix with a regularly conjugated suffix. Isn't that pefective future tense? Wouldn't past tense be...

    Я не покупал книгу вчера?

    I'm doing some homework and using google translate to double check, but I got the result above which confused me a little.

    Another question: after watching this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClraVPPOts), the guy said at 4:15 and again at 7:30 that you could pick and choose any prefix (-за, -при, -по, etc.) for your verbs. Is there any truth to this?

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    Re: Sentence Structure and Что

    Я не *покупаю* книгу вчера
    Very bad grammar!

    with a slight difference in nuance it would be either :
    Я не покупал эту книгу вчера
    or
    Я не купил эту книгу вчера.

    (both require quite a specific context, I can't even think of one right off the bat)
    If my post contains errors of any kind, I'd appreciate anyone setting me straight.

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    Re: Sentence Structure and Что

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrm
    Another question: after watching this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClraVPPOts), the guy said at 4:15 and again at 7:30 that you could pick and choose any prefix (-за, -при, -по, etc.) for your verbs. Is there any truth to this?
    I think you can but it does not imply the sence of the verb remains the same. It changes, sometimes a lot.
    I can’t figure out, btw, where the guy is from. He speaks too good an English to be from Russia and seemingly good Russian, at least as far as I can judge from what little and slow he says here.
    But then again, no, he’s not Russian; there are some sounds that betray a stranger in him.

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    Re: Sentence Structure and Что

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrm
    Я не покупаю книгу вчера = I did not buy the book yesterday (according to google)
    As already was said it is incorrect.

    It has a perfective prefix with a regularly conjugated suffix. Isn't that pefective future tense?
    No, "покупаю" is imperfective present (1st person, single). Prefix does not guarantee perfection...

    купить - покупать (perfective - imperfective)

    I think when there is suffix а in a verb and it is stressed, the verb should be imperfective no matter of prefixes.

    Я не купил вчера книгу. I did not buy the book yesterday. (perf)
    Я не покупал вчера книгу. I did not buy any book yesterday. (imperf.)
    Я не покупал вчера книг. I did not buy any book yesterday. (imperf.)
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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