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    question about past tense particles

    take the sentence:
    А потом, уже успокоившись, добавил:

    why isn't it written with й успокоившийсь?

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    It's the past completed form or whatever it's called.

    It comes from успокоив but is reflexive so you add шись to the end.

    больше примеров:

    убившись
    встретившись
    познакомившись

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    http://learningrussian.com/grammar/verbs.htm

    the ending is -вшийсь

    what am i missing?
    Кому - нары, кому - Канары.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    http://learningrussian.com/grammar/verbs.htm

    the ending is -вшийсь
    Where? I don't find it there.
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

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    There is no any -вшийсь in Russian. Probably you've seen -вшийся, but that's a totally different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    There is no any -вшийсь in Russian. Probably you've seen -вшийся, but that's a totally different story.
    what's the difference between успокоившись and успокоившийся?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    what's the difference between успокоившись and успокоившийся?
    успокоившийся - participle (it's declined like an adjective)
    "Успокоившийся ребенок мирно играл."

    успокоившись - verbal adverb, adverbial participle, gerund
    "Успокоившись, он стал говорить тише."
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    Причастие и деепричастие, я бы сказала ) то есть разные формы глагола.
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    успокоившись is the past GERUND = having calmed down / having relaxed.

    успокоившийся is the past active PARTICIPLE = he who had calmed down / he who had relaxed.

    You need to check the difference between Participles and Gerunds.

    Participles are verbal adjectives, that is 'adjectives formed from verbs'. They therefore agree in case, number and gender with the noun they describe. Note they are commonly used by themselves sort of as nouns. They replace a clause with который:
    Девочка, которая читает - The girl who reads / The reading girl / The girl who is reading.
    Читающая девочка - The girl who reads / The reading girl / The girl who is reading.

    Успокоившись, он стал говорить тише.
    Having calmed down, he began to talk more quitely

    Успокоившийся ребенок мирно играл.
    The "having calmed down" child played peacefully.
    The calmed down child played peacefully.
    The child who had calmed down played peacefully.
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