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    Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Okay, let's look at the lessons on MasterRussian.com.
    Noun Gender and Number
    Here are some basic rules, though exceptions exist:
    And where a list of exceptions? Also in Russian there are words ending on a soft sign, for example masculine: егерь, конь; Feminine: ель, мебель, дверь, метель, лошадь, кровь, моль, соль, цепь, тушь and so on. Also pay attention to words конь and лошадь. It's both translate as "horse", but конь - masculine and лошадь - feminine.
    English plurals end in -s. In Russian, there are more endings to make plurals.
    That's right, but as I know English plurals might ending on -es like as foxes. Correct if I'm wrong.
    Some nouns are always singular.
    Right, but possible to add "And some nouns are always in plural, like деньги".

    To be continued...
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    delog, I think it's a great idea that you are giving feedback here. I'm excited. This will surely help improve the lessons

    Nouns ending in -Ь are exceptions. They can be feminine or masculine. Here's an short list of exceptions.

    These nouns are masculine:
    словарь
    день
    парень
    дождь
    рубль
    голубь
    корень
    пень

    And these nouns are feminine:
    кровать
    тетрадь
    ночь
    дочь
    осень
    дверь
    жизнь
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Noun Gender and Number

    There are three genders in Russian: masculine, feminine and neuter. You can usually determine the gender of a noun by its ending. Here are some basic rules, though exceptions exist:

    Masculine:

    Word ------------------------------- Ending
    Дом, стол, нож, шалаш,
    and also врач, ключ, плащ, товарищ ______ in a hard consonant
    Чай, сарай, соловей, воробей, ручей ______ in -й
    Автомобиль, гвоздь, день, словарь, парень,
    дождь, рубль, голубь, корень, пень _______ Some nouns with -ь

    Feminine:
    Word-------------------------------- Ending
    Картина, школа, вода, парта, вода ________ in -a
    Семья, земля, дыня, лилия, беготня ________ in -я

    Тетрадь, артель, болезнь, печь, помощь,
    Кровать, ночь, дочь, осень, дверь, жизнь ________ Some nouns with -ь


    Neuter:

    Word ------------------------ Ending
    Письмo, окно, слово, зерно, дело ______ in -o
    Платьe, море, поле, солнце, ружьё _________ in -e , ё
    Знамя, семя, племя, имя, пламя, бремя, время, стремя, вымя, темя (10 only)_______ in -мя

    Comments:
    1. Дитя - neuter
    2. Indeclinable Nouns - новое пальто, тёплое кашне, громкое ура - neuter, but чёрный кофе- мasculine
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Quote Originally Posted by delog
    Some nouns are always singular. Right, but possible to add "And some nouns are always in plural, like деньги".
    алименты - alimony
    Альпы - Alps
    Афины - Athens
    близнецы - Gemini
    боты - galoshes
    будни - workdays
    весы - scales
    вилы - pitchfork
    ворота - gate(s)
    горелки - catch (game)
    деньги - money
    дети - children
    дрова - firewood
    дрожжи - yeast
    заморозки - frosts
    каникулы - holiday break
    качели - swing
    люди - people
    макароны - macaroni, pasta
    мощи - relic(s)
    ножницы - scissors
    носилки - stretcher
    обои - wallpaper
    опилки - sawdust
    очки - glasses
    перила - banister, railing
    похороны - funeral
    проводы - seeing-off
    прятки - hide-and-seek
    роды - childbirth
    санки - sledge
    сласти - sweets
    смотрины - bridal shower
    сумерки - dusk
    сутки - 24 hour period
    усы - moustache
    хлопоты - trouble(s)
    хлопья - flake(s)
    хоромы - mansion
    часы - clock, watch
    чернила - ink
    шахматы - chess
    щи - cabbage soup
    щипцы - tongs, pinchers
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    The Declension of Singular Nouns
    Second declension nouns are masculine nouns with a zero ending in the initial form (стол, олень, гербарий)
    Гербарий has zero ending? It seems to me, that its ending -ий, shouldn't one? In a table below at least has written "Nominative case - гербарий" with marked -ий.
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Quote Originally Posted by delog
    Гербарий has a zero ending? It seems to me_ that its ending is -ий, [s:37yptwx8]shouldn't one[/s:37yptwx8] isn't it? In [s:37yptwx8]a[/s:37yptwx8] the table [s:37yptwx8]below[/s:37yptwx8] above at least [s:37yptwx8]has[/s:37yptwx8](who has?) it's written "Nominative case - гербарий" with marked -ий.
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Спасибо, Оля, что поправила, я только не понял одну вещь - почему вместо below надо писать above? Это же два противоположенных по смыслу слова. А я хотел сказать "В таблице (которая находится) ниже..."
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Quote Originally Posted by delog
    А я хотел сказать "В таблице (которая находится) ниже..."
    А где эта "таблица ниже"? Ниже - это дальше по тексту, обычно прямо сразу после этих слов. Я думала, ты имел в виду какую-то таблицу (или список?) в одном из предыдущих постов в этой теме.
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    Quote Originally Posted by delog
    The Declension of Singular Nouns
    Second declension nouns are masculine nouns with a zero ending in the initial form (стол, олень, гербарий)
    Гербарий has zero ending? It seems to me, that its ending -ий, shouldn't one? In a table below at least has written "Nominative case - гербарий" with marked -ий.
    Окончание там нулевое. Достаточно пробить слово по его формам, чтобы в этом убедиться.
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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    гербарий is 2nd declension because it ends in -ий, not because it has zero ending.

    It was shown in the lesson table with examples, but it wasn't explained in the text. I have updated the text to make it more clear.

    2nd declension includes

    - masculine nouns with zero ending
    - neuter nouns ending in -o, -e in the singular nominative
    - words ending in -ий, -ие -- that's where our гербарий comes into play

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    Re: Lessons step by step (step 1)

    The Cases of Russian Nouns
    2. The genitive is used to show that something (somebody) belongs or refers to something (somebody). It can be translated by "of" in English.

    берег реки - the bank of the river
    Can it be translated by "from"? For example, я выхожу из реки - I go out from the river.
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