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    Figuring Stuff Out Thread

    Is this OK to say? Or at least grammatically correct?

    "Forgetting the past, you speak about this."
    "Забывая прошлое, Вы говорите об этом"
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    Seeing as the English sentence is a bit akward as well, the Russian one looks nice to me.
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    "Forgetting the past, you speak about this."

    The English sentence is ok.

    Когда вы забываете прошлое - вы об этом говорите.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishau_
    "Forgetting the past, you speak about this."

    English sentence is ok, "the past" is implied by "this", thst's obvious.

    Забывая прошлое, вы говорите о нем.

    or

    Забывая прошлое, вы говорите о последнем. less used

    or

    Когда вы забываете поршлое - вы об этом говорите.
    I'm not sure I will ever able to guess that "this" implies "the past" here I thought "this" refers to something out of context, so the English and Russian sentences seemed to me as master Yodo's upside-down speech In other words, I thought the Russian variant should be "Вы говорите об этом, забывая прошлое" (i.e. "Вы не должны говорить об этом. Или вы забыли прошлое?")
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    I'm not sure I will ever able to guess that "this" implies "the past"
    ok, I left the last one only, while we need DDT's elaboration on that "this".
    "this" as "the past" or "this" as "forgetting the past". But in engliss I find grammar structures of that kind everywhere.


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    With my Russian mentality I wolud defenitely say "And you can't change any (of them)". Godness' nose that English.
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    Whether you realize it or not you have all answered my questions. Thanks.

    Also, "this" implies the topic of the conversation between two people that would have been metioned in the previous sentence by the first speaker.

    I must admit that it does sound a little Master Yodaish! But I think that the occasion arises to speak in this fashion at times.
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    DDT, could you explain the meaning of your sentence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishau_
    Godness' nose that English.

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    I think that mishau meant Goodness knows that English.
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    This is truely a "Figuring Stuff Out Thread", nobody understands each other!
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    Yes that's right Mr Kalinka the Vinnie, you rotten old usurping Viking guy that stole my second place. And....there will be more figuring out stuff posted in the Figuring Out Thread, just as soon as i can figure out some more stuff to post for you all to figure out!
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    Third place... Pravit is still up there. that bastard.
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
    I am a notourriouse misspeller. Be easy on me.
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