Thread: In the dark forest

Za les'yu.. well.

because za + instrumental (which les'yu is) = behind, beyond the [forest]

And I'm back, to those who remember the notorious Saudi guy

hint

Originally Posted by Mixaelus

Za les'yu.. well.

because za + instrumental (which les'yu is) = behind, beyond the [forest]

And I'm back, to those who remember the notorious Saudi guy

hint

Not really.

KV knows that За + instr. = behind.

But the instrumental of Лес is Лесом.
ью is the ending of feminine nouns ending in a soft sign.

Ночь - Ночью

KV was asking why in the song the instrumental was Лесью, and not the expected Лесом.

Exactly... for some reason пролесь turned simply into лесь in this song...

Me = stupid

Many folk songs like this one have been recorded in remote villages many years ago and contain obsolete and/or dialectal words and expressions.

Лесь is very likely a dialectal form of лес

Ль/ли pretty often occurs in old folk songs and "былины" (folk tales told in verse) without the modern meaning of question/doubt.
For example:

"Пойду ль я выйду ль я да"

"Ты река ль, моя реченька.
Ты течёшь, не колыбнешься.

Ты дитя ль, моё дитятко,
Ты сидишь, не улыбнешься."

As Vladimir Dahl said about it, " Иногда принимает знач. темное" (Sometimes its meaning becomes obscure)

ль - значение темное???

как это понять? распашу ль я - я темно распашу??

This is extremely interesting, please explain more what kind of nuances this ль gives the sentences! It might be dialectic, but now you have piqued my curiosity! Hopefully, I won't suffer the same fate as the cat.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

ль - значение темное???

как это понять? распашу ль я - я темно распашу??

Hate to quote myself , but

Originally Posted by translations.nm.ru

Иногда принимает знач. темное" (Sometimes its meaning becomes obscure)

"sometimes its meaning becomes obscure" - I thought it was clear, no?

[quote=translations.nm.ru]

Originally Posted by "kalinka_vinnie":3sdfnt9q

ль - значение темное???

как это понять? распашу ль я - я темно распашу??

Hate to quote myself , but

Originally Posted by translations.nm.ru

Иногда принимает знач. темное" (Sometimes its meaning becomes obscure)

"sometimes its meaning becomes obscure" - I thought it was clear, no? [/quote:3sdfnt9q]

I hate quoting myself also.

[quote=translations.nm.ru]

Originally Posted by "kalinka_vinnie":30d2ewhi

ль - значение темное???

как это понять? распашу ль я - я темно распашу??

Hate to quote myself , but

Originally Posted by translations.nm.ru

Иногда принимает знач. темное" (Sometimes its meaning becomes obscure)

"sometimes its meaning becomes obscure" - I thought it was clear, no? [/quote:30d2ewhi]

I feel your pain.

I just can't imagine how someone is obscurely tilling his plot.

OK, here is five nuances of "tilling the plot", which one would be closer to the ль effect?

1 "I am tilling the plot"
2 "I am tilling the plot, or am I?"
3 "I am kinda tilling the plot"
4 "I am tilling with plot with difficulty"
5 "It is dark here, but I am tilling the plot"

Thanks (stupid могучий язык )

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

1 "I am tilling the plot"
2 "I am tilling the plot, or am I?"
3 "I am kinda tilling the plot"
4 "I am tilling with plot with difficulty"
5 "It is dark here, but I am tilling the plot"

None of the above, I am afraid. I think it's more like "Ay, I am tilling the plot, la-la".