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    тоже versus также

    I can't seem to get a hold on these 2 words. Тоже и также.

    Когда ты используешь тоже, и когда используешь также?
    (When do you use "тоже" and when "также"?).
    Пожалуйста, исправте мои ошибки, спасибо.
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I can't seem to get a hold on these 2 words. Тоже и также.

    Когда вы используете "тоже", и когда используете "также"?
    (When do you use "тоже" and when "также"?).
    Пожалуйста, исправьте мои ошибки, спасибо.
    Также = also
    Тоже = too

    "Также" is a word of a formal style (mostly).
    "Тоже" is more colloquial.

    Don't mix up "также" (also) with "так же" (~the same way).
    Don't mix up "тоже" (too) with "то же" (the same).
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I can't seem to get a hold on these 2 words. Тоже и также.

    Когда вы используете "тоже", и когда используете "также"?
    (When do you use "тоже" and when "также"?).
    Пожалуйста, исправьте мои ошибки, спасибо.
    Также = also
    Тоже = too

    "Также" is a word of a formal style (mostly).
    "Тоже" is more colloquial.

    Don't mix up "также" (also) with "так же" (~the same way).
    Don't mix up "тоже" (too) with "то же" (the same).
    Thanks for pointing out the last 2 differences. No wonder I was confused earlier. It's like having 4 words for 2.
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Также = also
    Тоже = too
    "too" can also mean слишком
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.

    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!

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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.

    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Думаешь, tohca этого не знает? Тема, вообще-то, про "тоже" и "также", а не про too.
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Ну и хамло же ты...
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    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Оффтопить так оффтопить.))

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Также = also
    Тоже = too
    "too" can also mean слишком
    shadow1, не обращай внимания, ничего страшного в том, что ты это написал(а), нет. Мы знаем, ты никого не хотел(а) обидеть. Всё забываю спросить, ты парень или девушка?
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaya
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.

    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Думаешь, tohca этого не знает? Тема, вообще-то, про "тоже" и "также", а не про too.
    I think one of the difficulties for me is that the words too and also are quite often used interchangeably, without much difference in meaning. For example, "can I have this too?" and "can I have this also?" But Оля did explain that the word "также" is used in a more formal sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    No she did.
    Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I think one of the difficulties for me is that the words too and also are quite often used interchangeably, without much difference in meaning. For example, "can I have this too?" and "can I have this also?" But Оля did explain that the word "также" is used in a more formal sense.
    Then forget about также for some time.
    Mind that not always is possible to begin the sentence with 'тоже' (in this meaning).

    Some people using тоже stick with English word order when they translate such sentences:
    Nina runs a catering company. Also, she plans parties.
    But Тоже она устраивает вечеринки sounds very bad. We don't say so.
    Также она организовывает вечеринки is ok (without any commas!).

    Sometimes, when you use 'also' in addition to something else that you have mentioned, you can translate 'also' as 'ещё':
    Ещё она организовывает вечеринки.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaya
    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I think one of the difficulties for me is that the words too and also are quite often used interchangeably, without much difference in meaning. For example, "can I have this too?" and "can I have this also?" But Оля did explain that the word "также" is used in a more formal sense.
    Then forget about также for some time.
    Mind that it is/it's not always is possible to begin the sentence with 'тоже' (in this meaning).
    Some people using тоже stick with English word order When using тоже, some peope stick...when they translate such sentences:
    Nina runs a catering company. Also, she plans parties.
    But Тоже она устраивает вечеринки sounds very bad. We don't say so.
    Также она организовывает вечеринки is ok (without any commas!).

    Sometimes, when you use 'also' in addition to something else that you have mentioned, you can translate 'also' as 'ещё':
    Ещё она организовывает вечеринки.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    No she did.
    Не спорь со старшими. Чему там вас в армии учат?
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Также = also
    Тоже = too

    "Также" is a word of a formal style (mostly).
    "Тоже" is more colloquial.
    I'm not quite satisfied with that explanation, because in English "also" and "too" are basically interchangeable in normal conversation. Yet, in Russian, it seems that one is right and one is wrong, depending on the situation.

    I could be wrong (please correct me if I am), but I keep them straight by focusing on the TO and TAK aspect. That is, the part of speech reflected by each.

    For example, I use тоже when I use "also" referring to a person or thing, and I use также when I use "also" in relation to an action or something abstract.

    Note the difference:

    Мы также рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the action separate from another action. Trans: "We are also pleased to offer our services..."

    Мы тоже рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the subject (мы) separate from some other subject. Trans: "We, also, are pleased to offer our services..."
    That is, as opposed to somebody else.

    Does that make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    No she did.
    Не спорь со старшими. Чему там вас в армии учат?
    He's joking, I think, Lampada.

    Nobody older than 8 calls somebody else "smartie pants" and is serious.
    "Сейчас без языка нельзя... из тебя шапку сделают..."
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    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
    Note the difference:

    Мы также рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the action separate from another action. Trans: "We are also pleased to offer our services..."

    Мы тоже рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the subject (мы) separate from some other subject. Trans: "We, also, are pleased to offer our services..."
    That is, as opposed to somebody else.

    Does that make sense?
    Yes, you are right.
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