Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 55

Thread: тоже versus также

  1. #1
    Старший оракул tohca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    зарубежный
    Posts
    769
    Rep Power
    11

    тоже versus также

    I can't seem to get a hold on these 2 words. Тоже и также.

    Когда ты используешь тоже, и когда используешь также?
    (When do you use "тоже" and when "также"?).
    Пожалуйста, исправте мои ошибки, спасибо.
    Find out all about Malaysia here!

  2. #2
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Russland
    Posts
    9,882
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I can't seem to get a hold on these 2 words. Тоже и также.

    Когда вы используете "тоже", и когда используете "также"?
    (When do you use "тоже" and when "также"?).
    Пожалуйста, исправьте мои ошибки, спасибо.
    Также = also
    Тоже = too

    "Также" is a word of a formal style (mostly).
    "Тоже" is more colloquial.

    Don't mix up "также" (also) with "так же" (~the same way).
    Don't mix up "тоже" (too) with "то же" (the same).
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

  3. #3
    Старший оракул tohca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    зарубежный
    Posts
    769
    Rep Power
    11

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I can't seem to get a hold on these 2 words. Тоже и также.

    Когда вы используете "тоже", и когда используете "также"?
    (When do you use "тоже" and when "также"?).
    Пожалуйста, исправьте мои ошибки, спасибо.
    Также = also
    Тоже = too

    "Также" is a word of a formal style (mostly).
    "Тоже" is more colloquial.

    Don't mix up "также" (also) with "так же" (~the same way).
    Don't mix up "тоже" (too) with "то же" (the same).
    Thanks for pointing out the last 2 differences. No wonder I was confused earlier. It's like having 4 words for 2.
    Find out all about Malaysia here!

  4. #4
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    332
    Rep Power
    10

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Также = also
    Тоже = too
    "too" can also mean слишком
    Я взял палку и нож, мелки и бумагу и направился к холмам.

  5. #5
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Russland
    Posts
    9,882
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

  6. #6
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Северо-Восточный Администритивный Округ.
    Posts
    3,471
    Rep Power
    15

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.

    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!

  7. #7
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    12

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.

    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Думаешь, tohca этого не знает? Тема, вообще-то, про "тоже" и "также", а не про too.
    If you have problems with both posting new messages and sending PMs, you can send an e-mail to the Forum Administrator here:
    http://masterrussian.net/sendmessage.php
    У меня что-то с почтой, на ЛС ответить не могу. (

  8. #8
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Russland
    Posts
    9,882
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Ну и хамло же ты...
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

  9. #9
    Moderator Lampada's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    СССР -> США
    Posts
    17,639
    Rep Power
    32
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    "...Важно, чтобы форум оставался местом, объединяющим людей, для которых интересны русский язык и культура. ..." - MasterАdmin (из переписки)



  10. #10
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    12

    Re: тоже versus также

    Оффтопить так оффтопить.))

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Также = also
    Тоже = too
    "too" can also mean слишком
    shadow1, не обращай внимания, ничего страшного в том, что ты это написал(а), нет. Мы знаем, ты никого не хотел(а) обидеть. Всё забываю спросить, ты парень или девушка?
    If you have problems with both posting new messages and sending PMs, you can send an e-mail to the Forum Administrator here:
    http://masterrussian.net/sendmessage.php
    У меня что-то с почтой, на ЛС ответить не могу. (

  11. #11
    Старший оракул tohca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    зарубежный
    Posts
    769
    Rep Power
    11

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaya
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow1
    "too" can also mean слишком
    I know that.

    he was probably talking to the original poster, smartie pants.
    Думаешь, tohca этого не знает? Тема, вообще-то, про "тоже" и "также", а не про too.
    I think one of the difficulties for me is that the words too and also are quite often used interchangeably, without much difference in meaning. For example, "can I have this too?" and "can I have this also?" But Оля did explain that the word "также" is used in a more formal sense.
    Find out all about Malaysia here!

  12. #12
    Старший оракул
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Somewhere on the planet
    Posts
    776
    Rep Power
    9
    Повторение - мать учения!
    http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...us/mage7yu.jpg
    God granted me the serenity to accept the things
    I cannot change
    Courage to change the things I can
    And wisdom to know the difference

  13. #13
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Северо-Восточный Администритивный Округ.
    Posts
    3,471
    Rep Power
    15
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    No she did.
    Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!

  14. #14
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    12
    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I think one of the difficulties for me is that the words too and also are quite often used interchangeably, without much difference in meaning. For example, "can I have this too?" and "can I have this also?" But Оля did explain that the word "также" is used in a more formal sense.
    Then forget about также for some time.
    Mind that not always is possible to begin the sentence with 'тоже' (in this meaning).

    Some people using тоже stick with English word order when they translate such sentences:
    Nina runs a catering company. Also, she plans parties.
    But Тоже она устраивает вечеринки sounds very bad. We don't say so.
    Также она организовывает вечеринки is ok (without any commas!).

    Sometimes, when you use 'also' in addition to something else that you have mentioned, you can translate 'also' as 'ещё':
    Ещё она организовывает вечеринки.
    If you have problems with both posting new messages and sending PMs, you can send an e-mail to the Forum Administrator here:
    http://masterrussian.net/sendmessage.php
    У меня что-то с почтой, на ЛС ответить не могу. (

  15. #15
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    в моей стойке
    Posts
    566
    Rep Power
    9
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaya
    Quote Originally Posted by tohca
    I think one of the difficulties for me is that the words too and also are quite often used interchangeably, without much difference in meaning. For example, "can I have this too?" and "can I have this also?" But Оля did explain that the word "также" is used in a more formal sense.
    Then forget about также for some time.
    Mind that it is/it's not always is possible to begin the sentence with 'тоже' (in this meaning).
    Some people using тоже stick with English word order When using тоже, some peope stick...when they translate such sentences:
    Nina runs a catering company. Also, she plans parties.
    But Тоже она устраивает вечеринки sounds very bad. We don't say so.
    Также она организовывает вечеринки is ok (without any commas!).

    Sometimes, when you use 'also' in addition to something else that you have mentioned, you can translate 'also' as 'ещё':
    Ещё она организовывает вечеринки.
    Correct my mistakes and I will give you +1 internets.

  16. #16
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    12
    Thank you, xRoosterx.
    If you have problems with both posting new messages and sending PMs, you can send an e-mail to the Forum Administrator here:
    http://masterrussian.net/sendmessage.php
    У меня что-то с почтой, на ЛС ответить не могу. (

  17. #17
    Moderator Lampada's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    СССР -> США
    Posts
    17,639
    Rep Power
    32
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    No she did.
    Не спорь со старшими. Чему там вас в армии учат?
    "...Важно, чтобы форум оставался местом, объединяющим людей, для которых интересны русский язык и культура. ..." - MasterАdmin (из переписки)



  18. #18
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Satellite of Love
    Posts
    719
    Rep Power
    9

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Также = also
    Тоже = too

    "Также" is a word of a formal style (mostly).
    "Тоже" is more colloquial.
    I'm not quite satisfied with that explanation, because in English "also" and "too" are basically interchangeable in normal conversation. Yet, in Russian, it seems that one is right and one is wrong, depending on the situation.

    I could be wrong (please correct me if I am), but I keep them straight by focusing on the TO and TAK aspect. That is, the part of speech reflected by each.

    For example, I use тоже when I use "also" referring to a person or thing, and I use также when I use "also" in relation to an action or something abstract.

    Note the difference:

    Мы также рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the action separate from another action. Trans: "We are also pleased to offer our services..."

    Мы тоже рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the subject (мы) separate from some other subject. Trans: "We, also, are pleased to offer our services..."
    That is, as opposed to somebody else.

    Does that make sense?
    "Сейчас без языка нельзя... из тебя шапку сделают..."
    Cogito Ergo Doleo

  19. #19
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Satellite of Love
    Posts
    719
    Rep Power
    9
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy182
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada
    Дети, не ссорьтесь, пожалуйста.
    Догбой, ты начал.
    No she did.
    Не спорь со старшими. Чему там вас в армии учат?
    He's joking, I think, Lampada.

    Nobody older than 8 calls somebody else "smartie pants" and is serious.
    "Сейчас без языка нельзя... из тебя шапку сделают..."
    Cogito Ergo Doleo

  20. #20
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Russland
    Posts
    9,882
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: тоже versus также

    Quote Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
    Note the difference:

    Мы также рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the action separate from another action. Trans: "We are also pleased to offer our services..."

    Мы тоже рады предложить вам свои услуги...
    Referring to the subject (мы) separate from some other subject. Trans: "We, also, are pleased to offer our services..."
    That is, as opposed to somebody else.

    Does that make sense?
    Yes, you are right.
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Once more on тоже и также.
    By radomir in forum Grammar and Vocabulary
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: March 23rd, 2010, 08:38 PM
  2. также/тоже
    By paulb in forum Grammar and Vocabulary
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: February 4th, 2009, 04:32 PM
  3. тоже and также
    By JackBoni in forum Grammar and Vocabulary
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: November 7th, 2008, 03:17 PM
  4. "тоже" и "также"
    By RavinDave in forum Grammar and Vocabulary
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: September 22nd, 2006, 06:10 PM
  5. Тоже and Также
    By Alwin in forum Grammar and Vocabulary
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: February 13th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Russian Lessons                           

Russian Tests and Quizzes            

Russian Vocabulary