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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer View Post
    Guides are by definition should be able to guide. If language is required to be a guide then the guide should learn it. i.e. French side should find a guide who speaks all the necessary languages and that's what actually happens in the real world. French side should find resources to make the communication happen, as I was suggesting I don't see why Papua New Guinea should pay French side for a guide as you were suggesting
    Ok, so who in the real world would learn whose language? Could French hire Kaluli interpreter who speaks French, or could French hire a French interpreter who speaks Bosavi? All I'm saying, in the real world, both things happen depending on the availability.

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    Selling the goods is also incorrect example, because goods are targeting local population thus should be useful and convenient for locals
    What's targeting the local population is the non-speaking handicraft, but there's the whole marketing requiring lots of speaking and knowing the culture of the target audience. Again, it could do either way, a Kaluli firm could hire a Kaluli who's fluent in French to act abroad, or alternatively, the Kaluli firm could hire a French agent who's fluent in Bosavi. That depends on the availability of the resources. All, I'm saying, the economic ties would inevitably cause mutual language and culture studies. The tighter the ties, the more language studies. If all of a sudden it becomes fashionable for the French tourists to come and visit Papuan Plateau, whoever of Kaluli speaks better French, would get more money as they could provide more hospitable environment. And if French tourists would know Bosavi language better, they would find more exciting experiences. And so on.

    I'm not sure what makes you so irritated about point 1, isn't that the natural process that had happen everywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    I'm not sure what makes you so irritated about point 1, isn't that the natural process that had happen everywhere?
    It suggests that both sides should spend resources on learning the language of the opposite side. I found this economically unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer View Post
    It suggests that both sides should spend resources on learning the language of the opposite side. I found this economically unnecessary.
    I agree. That's why I think options 2 and 3 (which I personally endorse) are equally good from the economic perspective. However, moving forward from point 1 requires some coordination of efforts, won't you agree? I mean, in my example, if both French and Kaluli would speak, say, Portuguese, it would enormously speed up the business integration, but what would make them both learn Portuguese?

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    Croc, are you heading to Chelybinsk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by capecoddah View Post
    Croc, are you heading to Chelybinsk?
    Nah, the locals have gathered all the precious remnants. Nothing left for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    What's so special in English culture to let its language dominate?
    American linguistic/cultural imperialism is simply our revenge on the goddamned treacherous French for forcing their godless metric system and oral sex on the entire world!!!

    Deepest apologies to Russians, Chinese, Mexicans, and others who have no choice but to learn the complicated and illogical English language instead of simple, rational Esperanto. You were only innocent "collateral damage" from our noble campaign against the stinking heathen Frogs...

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    Btw, there is an opinion that so-called meteor shower was an unsuccesfull attempt of Chelyabinsk zink plant to extract raw materials directly from space.



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    From an Associated Press article:
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    The panic and confusion that followed Friday's meteorite crash quickly gave way to typical Russian black humor and entrepreneurial instincts.
    Several people smashed in the windows of their houses in the hopes of receiving compensation, the RIA Novosti news agency reported.
    Others quickly took to the Internet and put what they said were meteorite fragments up for sale.
    One of the most popular jokes was that the meteorite was supposed to fall on Dec. 21 last year - when many believed the Mayan calendar predicted the end of the world - but was delivered late by Russia's notoriously inefficient postal service.
    The dramatic event prompted an array of reactions from prominent Russians.
    Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, speaking at an economic forum in the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk, said the meteor could be a symbol for the forum, showing that "not only the economy is vulnerable, but the whole planet."
    Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a nationalist leader noted for his vehement statements, blamed the Americans.
    "It's not meteors falling. It's the test of a new weapon by the Americans," the RIA Novosti news agency quoted him as saying."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77 View Post
    Btw, there is an opinion that so-called meteor shower was an unsuccesfull attempt of Chelyabinsk zink plant to extract raw materials directly from space.
    Sad, but true. Apparently, it's a bit more complex than installing a very large magnet and directing it upwards.

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