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    Spanish and French? I don't see many similarities at all... Spanish and Italian, however are pretty close. I can recognize a lot of Italian words that I see just based on my knowledge of Spanish, but I can't do much when it comes to French.

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    I recognize a lot of Spanish words based on my impressive and vast knowledge of French

    They are in the same language family anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantom605
    Spanish and French? I don't see many similarities at all... Spanish and Italian, however are pretty close. I can recognize a lot of Italian words that I see just based on my knowledge of Spanish, but I can't do much when it comes to French.

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    My Spanish friend says he understands French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    My Spanish friend says he understands French.
    I doubt it, unless he studied French. What do you mean by he understands? He can understand when someone talks or can guess when he reads something?
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    Isn't Romanian and French Close? Closer than General Spanish is to French?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantom605
    Spanish and French? I don't see many similarities at all...
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    Actually many words have the same roots but that's it and doesn't necessary mean that I can understand Spanish.
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    translations.nm.ru, my hat's off to you, calling upon your skills at OCS; I could hardly believe my eyes when I read your post.

    One small error, though, which I determined immediately as I pulled up my Paul Diels, Altkirchenslavische Grammatik, (1963, 2. Auflage) and looked it up. The infinitive is (I don't have a yat' here so I'll use ě), вěдěти, 1.sg. вěмь. (мягкий знак)

    Also, noone mentioned it, probably because it's only males here who might recall this word, but we have the word ведьма. Ведь значит The Knower, согласишь?? (I do know what it means.)

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    kalinka_vinnie - азбука is closest to ABC. Actually the OCS word is буки that's the name of the letter, even though it seems to be plural.

    Anyway, memorize this phrase, which "everyone" knows: аз да буки а там науки.
    (носители рус. яз. пож исправьте, если ошибаюсь.)

    and pices reminded me
    >Азбука is just a literal translation of "alphabet".

    What do you think might be the origin of the English word "alphabet". Might it be alpha beta αβ Hmmm. or alef bet? As I heard it from my former wife, her high school (in Chicago) ball game cheer was: alef bet gimmel dalet. Man, oh man, are we solid!

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    ok, I see now. аз means 'A' and not necessary 'I' and буки means 'B', just like Alphabet is alpha beta, the two first letters.

    I just got confued with the аз = 'I' thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
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    What do you think might be the origin of the English word "alphabet". Might it be alpha beta αβ Hmmm. or alef bet? As I heard it from my former wife, her high school (in Chicago) ball game cheer was: alef bet gimmel dalet. Man, oh man, are we solid!
    This is from an etymology dictionary.
    1567 (implied in alphabetical), from L.L. alphabetum (Tertullian), from Gk. alphabetos, from alpha + beta, the first two letters of it, from Heb.-Phoen. aleph, pausal form of eleph "ox" + beth, lit. "house;" the letters so called because their shapes resembled or represented those objects. The Greeks added -a to the end of many Heb.-Phoenician letter names because Gk. words cannot end in most consonants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmihow
    Isn't Romanian and French Close? Closer than General Spanish is to French?
    Not really. Romanian is closer to Italian rather than French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderkat
    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    My Spanish friend says he understands French.
    I doubt it, unless he studied French. What do you mean by he understands? He can understand when someone talks or can guess when he reads something?
    I expect written, because in French they don't pronounce half the letters in a word...
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    In Ukrainian they have:

    Алфавіт - from Greek alpha, beta
    Азбука - from Old Church Slavonic az, buki
    Абетка - from Ukrainian a, be,
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    kalinka_vinnie - азбука is closest to ABC. Actually the OCS word is буки that's the name of the letter, even though it seems to be plural.

    Anyway, memorize this phrase, which "everyone" knows: аз да буки а там науки.
    (носители рус. яз. пож исправьте, если ошибаюсь.)

    and pices reminded me
    >Азбука is just a literal translation of "alphabet".

    What do you think might be the origin of the English word "alphabet". Might it be alpha beta αβ Hmmm. or alef bet? As I heard it from my former wife, her high school (in Chicago) ball game cheer was: alef bet gimmel dalet. Man, oh man, are we solid!
    But, if you look at the whole alphabet:

    Г is called глаголи
    Д is called добро
    Е is called єсть

    etc.

    The names have meanings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    I expect written, because in French they don't pronounce half the letters in a word...
    Sorry but you're wrong. Who told you that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderkat
    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    I expect written, because in French they don't pronounce half the letters in a word...
    Sorry but you're wrong. Who told you that?
    What do you mean he's wrong? In saying that they don't pronounce half the letters in a word? That's right, as far as I'm concerned. For example, the -eaux ending, that sounds like "oh".
    And just count to ten:

    un
    deux
    trois
    quatre
    cinq
    six
    sept
    huit
    neuf
    dix

    Most of those have more than one useless letter. (not that english is any better, but anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum
    What do you mean he's wrong? In saying that they don't pronounce half the letters in a word? That's right, as far as I'm concerned. For example, the -eaux ending, that sounds like "oh".
    And just count to ten:

    ...

    Most of those have more than one useless letter. (not that english is any better, but anyway)
    As you know almost all the words come from Latin or/and Greek and have a reason to have such spellings. Let me explain these you've mentioned above. But I agree some letters are silent, which by the way does not mean useless at all, and he quite exaggerated saying half the letters are not pronounced.
    Here's some simple explanations.

    un - the n is needed because it becomes une, also u+n creates a nasal sound and comes from unus in Latin
    deux - the silent x is needed and pronounced for words made of it (deuxi
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    [quote=Spiderkat]
    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum
    What do you mean he's wrong? In saying that they don't pronounce half the letters in a word? That's right, as far as I'm concerned. For example, the -eaux ending, that sounds like "oh".
    And just count to ten:

    ...

    Most of those have more than one useless letter. (not that english is any better, but anyway)
    As you know almost all the words come from Latin or/and Greek and have a reason to have such spellings. Let me explain these you've mentioned above. But I agree some letters are silent, which by the way does not mean useless at all, and he quite exaggerated saying half the letters are not pronounced.
    Here's some simple explanations.

    un - the n is needed because it becomes une, also u+n creates a nasal sound and comes from unus in Latin
    deux - the silent x is needed and pronounced for words made of it (deuxi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum
    Ha ha ha! Tu-shay back in my face! By the way, that "tu-shay", or "too, sheey" or whatever....that sounds French also. How do you spell it?
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    You spell it "touch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderkat
    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    I expect written, because in French they don't pronounce half the letters in a word...
    Sorry but you're wrong. Who told you that?
    You take people to litterally.
    When I say "they don't pronounce half the letters", I don't actually mean half.

    But there are lots of unpronounced letters (e.g. at the end of words).

    Basically, I was saying, French isn't a phonetic language, so even though a French word may look like a Spanish word, a Spanish person may find it difficult to understand.
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